Descartes

Here are two I picked up at Sovereign rarities today. Two nice little Charles I pennies in surprisingly good striking nick

Thanks Dave! 🙂

Please could somebody ID this penny for me. I'm having problems trying to work it out. Thanks, Descartes

Blimey! It seems everybody is on the 'bay' these days!

Hi Stu, yes, I wonder how many 3a punches there were? Perhaps that's a project for the future... Anyway, the coin arrived today and I've tried to take some photos for a clearer look at the neck and drapery. Im not the worlds best photographer, but what's your opinion of the coin? Is it a 3b? 🙂

Here's my little win from yesterday's Spink auction. It's a neat little Edward I penny, class 2a, which clearly shows the left leaf of the central fleur incomplete as a result of damage to the punch. That's my class 2s all done and dusted now!

That really is a lovely farthing, Stu! Hats off!

Oh! I see what you mean. It appears to be 'face 2' which would make it a 1d ... however, the nick in the crown suggests a 2a. Hmmm. I hope it's a 2a though - I'm fed up of seeing the 'class 2a' penny gap in my folder! hahaha

Thanks Richard. I was hoping it was a 3b but the drapery looks a bit odd!

Thanks Stu! There seems to be loads of Plantagenet pennies turning up this Spring. Long may it continue!

From the Spink description: One other Penny of Aethelstan with a ship on the obverse is recorded, see Marion Archibald, 'A ship-type of Athelstan I of East Anglia' in BNJ 52 (1982), pp. 34-40. The other example, discovered at West Harling in 1977, was folded when found, and broke into two pieces during the attempt to flatten it. It was subsequently aquired by the Castle Museum, Norwich. 'The obverse type of a ship is clearly derived from the similar vessels shown on the reverses of the rare Carolingian deniers of Charlemagne, 768-814 and Louis the Pious, 814-840, struck at Dorestadt (M&G 105 and 330) and Quentovic (M&G 121a and 351), the important trading posts at the mouths of the Rhine and Canche respectively. The issues of Charlemagne are less likely to have provided the model since the ships in the two known examples are consistent in being rudderless, with single ropes springing from fairly close to the base of the mast. The shape and fittings of the Aethelstan ship are most closely parallelled on coins of Louis the Pious from Dorestadt (e.g. M&G pl. XI, 330), which are in fact the only Carolingian deniers to have survived, and, presumably, to have been struck, in any numbers. It may be noted that the oars shown on the ultimate Roman prototype and reproduced on the Carolingian dies as oars and/or waves are lacking on this English example. The ship type was introduced some time during the last years of Charlemagne and although the issues of Louis the Pious cannot be dated precisely, they are securely attributed to early in his reign. At what stage the English copy appeared is difficult to assess. The ship type itself demonstrates the long interval that can divide a coin design from its prototype, but it is most probable that the English coin was produced while the Carolingian ship-type was still a significent presence in the circulating medium of the Frankish kingdom and its trading neighbours. This was during the earlier part of the reign of Louis the Pious before the ship type, with its predecessors and contemporaries, became heavily outnumbered in circulation by the large issues of two-line and temple types made during his middle and later years. Some examples did however survive long enough to be included in hoards buried into the early 840s. The date of the other group of imitations of the Carolingian ship type, produced in Scandinavia, is equally difficult to resolve; while some scholars would prefer a later date, Professor Malmer, who has made the most detailed recent study of the question, places their issue c. 825. Thus, although the date of the ship type must remain open, production earlier rather than later in Aethelstan's reign seems more probable.' The reverse, with the moneyer's name Eadgar in two lines with the final letter r in the centre next to an x, and the use of miniscule for the letters d and g, is very reminiscent of the reverses, including those by the moneyer Eadgar, on the later coins of Coenwulf and Ceolwulf and also those of Beornwulf.

When I won my lovely Richard I penny on the Davisson's auction I received a letter saying I owed import VAT of 12.44 and a clearance fee of 11.25 ... so all in all 23.69 pounds worth of charges on my 300 dollar coin. I never expected this, but I mustn't grumble too much as Davisson's didn't charge buyer commission fees. I just felt a little annoyed by the post office!

If you start from the cross at 12 o'clock... the legend reads around the portrait HAR - OLDREX, so 'Harold King'

Thanks for the info Dave. I've not heard of this type before! It's always good to learn new things in your chosen field. In my humble opinion the Plantagenet coins are the most interesting to collect and study. There are so many interesting types and different moneyers to collect from Henry II to Richard III - with Edward I's coinage being my favourite!

Hello chaps, Here's my other new purchase today. An Edward I York archiepiscopal penny: class 3e. According to the Galata Guide the class 3e was only coined in the Northern mints. Quite a scabby penny, but the quartrefoil on the reverse is really cool! Descartes

Hi Stu, yes, I definitely paid a little under the 500 quid mark for the coin... I managed to snap it up for a reasonable 95, so not too bad. I'm sure people must get carried away on auction! I still can't believe how much that 2b went for! That lovely Edward I Davisson's penny you have your eye on - I'm sure it's a 3g you know! Here's the reverse of my new 2b

wow!

Nice coin Stu! Good luck with that one! Here's a lovely Edward I penny I bought today (Canterbury mint). I'm thinking it's a 2a or 2b, but it's a bonus as I wanted a nice Canterbury!

Please can somebody ID this lovely Edward I for me Thanks, Descartes

I started collecting 50p as a bit of fun from my serious collecting. I collected all the British commemorative 50ps, the 29 Olympic coins, all the Gibraltar & IOM Christmas 50ps ... but every time I check there always seems to be another dozen to collect! I've just noticed I'm now missing FIVE penguin 50ps (2017) from the Falklands (6 with the rare withdrawn one!); EIGHT 2017 50p coins from the IOM commemorating the Queen's platinum wedding anniversary, and now learn there are another FOUR Beatrix Potter ones scheduled for 2018. It does indeed seem they've vamped up the commemorative coins to record high!

No, I haven't, but I saw your nice blue watch when you were video-bombing Numis' YouTube video at Baldwin St James' Auction 15 I will definitely have a look at your channel over the weekend. Descartes

Welcome to the forum! Are you by any chance Numistacker's chum (my favourite coin guy on YouTube)?

Excellent result, Stu ... I'm so glad you managed to bag that lovely penny

Well... I've been watching the Timeline Auctions through the live bidding this afternoon as I had a couple of bids placed on two coins. 1. Didn't win the Richard III penny (lot 1229). It opened at 200. My maximum bid was 400, and it closed at 460. Nevermind. 2. I initially placed a bid of 200 on a lovely Edward IV penny (Second reign, type XXI) from the Archbishop sharp collection (lot 1240). I was out bid at 220, but I placed a last minute sneaky internet bid at 240 (300 with premium) and won. I'm pleased with this result because of the provenance... Looking forward to some more bidding on Thurs/Friday! Here's the coin!