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I searched 50 rolls of USA 5¢ coins yesterday perusing for pre-1960 dated coins and came up with one of her Majesty's 20 pence coins from 1998 masquerading as a Jefferson Nickel. Curiously the rolls of coins were all hand rolled and not machine rolled by the bank, so they came in deposits. I wonder if one of my neighbours travelled afar and oceans across and returned with a seven sided souvenir subsequently rounded up with her American cousins to make their way to my humble abode?

Of course I like the VIP example best, nice colouring. But how many of these were made, and for whom?

Moneta is a latin word, used by Russians, indeed it does mean "coin", but there is also the word in Russian, dyenga which means coin or money.

The son of James VII of Scotland, James VIII would never officially rule Scotland, but only in the hearts of the Jacobite followers. His life began in controversy as to whether he really indeed was the child of James VII and Mary of Modena. Shortly after his birth he was spirited of to France for safekeeping as the Protestant supporters of William and Mary were beginning to agitate for the ouster of James VII from the throne. In 1701, after the death of James VII in France, James VIII was proclaimed King. After several abortive attempts, most notably in 1708 and in 1715, he was not able to secure the throne, despite the continued support of many in Scotland. He would never again attempt to take the throne in Scotland and left it to his son, Bonnie Prince Charlie to rise to the occasion in 1745. The above item is a touch piece from the time of James VIII, this was an ancient tradition in Scotland, where the reigning monarch would bless and hand a medal like the one above to an ill recipient. This was known as "touching for the kings' evil and was believed that since he ruled devinely that he must be able to cure the ill. This is a scarce piece and was probably presented to a follower in exile in France.

Kind of makes you wonder if they were performing medieval torture on these coins, perhaps putting them in the 14th century equivalent of the rack. Or maybe they took the evil from them by breaking them?

Notice however that it broke off right at the beading, which given that the metal changes flow there, would account for the more even break. BTW nice Bristol penny, I wish I still had the one I owned.

She should for crying out loud, think about it, her image is on more coins than any other person in history.

Along with the Irish rose and the Scottish leek.

And thus you are entitled to a title, really!

The metal these coins were struck on is not the best, I believe they broke quite frequently. I have more than a few of these myself.

It may not be worth much, but it's a thoroughly fascinating thing to find and a great talking point with the neighbours. You never know, there may be more and in better condition where that came from. Yes indeed, me wonders where that lost Noble of Richard II is hiding it's beautacious self in my fair garden?

Hello everyone and thanks for pointing this out – as Rob has noticed I have unlisted the coin on behalf of the Guest Dealer concerned. Both Andy & I try and take a look at this Forum from time to time, but if anyone spots any others that look a bit suspect, then please let us know and we will deal with them accordingly. Click here to contact us Many thanks Neelam Good show, it did indeed seem off of character for an otherwise terrific and appreciable venue for numismatic perusal.

Maybe they have utilitarian and as of yet unutilised functions, perhaps holes can be drilled and they will serve as attractive washers.

Crikes, if that thing is proof, I better pull out all my 1936's outta the bag and pawn them off on ya's, mine will set ya back only £100 per. Personally I think you can forget FDC as I believe it is a currency piece which is struggling to make UNC. If you compare the Adams 1936 proof penny lot 357 with the one for sale, there is much less hair detail. A matt proof for photographic purposes must have the same sharp detail found on a bog standard proof, otherwise why make it as a currency piece would suffice. Righto.

I wonder if the BRM would have a cow about people melting off old pennies and halfpennies, I have about £85 face in them, literally! They are residing in huge canvas bank bags. I would never melt them, there is stuff in those bags going back to William III and lots of Victorian pennies, but I imagine some of the 1967 pennies are worth more in intrinsic value than collector value now.

I wish I could find a 700 year old coin, even with a ragged edge, in my humble flower garden. I would be lucky to find a 1930's cent.

Recently in the Phillipines a group of individuals were indicted on charges of exporting current Phillipines coinage to Korea where it was melted for scrap value. Many countries have coinage circulating that has metal value in excess of it's nominal governtment appointed value.

The Royal Mint has issued a notice that the melting of coinage is an offence, and is punishable. So then you have to export the coins to be melted, an added expense, and could also be illegal.

The cent probably should have been eliminated about 10 years ago. These are useless coins with their real value only being about 1/10th of what they were valued at back 35-40 years ago due to inflation. Nowadays the only things you can find for a cent are loss leaders, like the coin operated rocking horses in supermarkets to appease the 2 yr old after a shopping trip. No gumball machine takes anything less than 25¢ now. Dimes are basically the new cents. Nickles or 5¢ coins are pretty useless. All these small coins exist more for tax reasons than anything else.

The actual bronze coins are worth more than face value and some collectors and speculators are pulling them out of circulation. However the most recent examples of all the coins you listed are now plated base metals, either steel or zinc. They are nominally worth more than face value, but not much. The others are not worth enough yet that they are actually worth the expense of melting them. I myself happen to buy boxes of cents which contain 2.500 coins, I keep all the pre-1982's which are bronze, but my main search is for pre-1965 Canadian, and pre-1959 USA cents all of which had slightly different designs. Recently I have gotten USA cents dated as early as 1919, and Canadian cents as early as 1940. I have also gotten a 2 Eurocent from Germany, a plastic play money cent and several scarcer mintmarks such as S for San Francisco. Unfortunately coin searches in the UK cannot be so exciting with the demise of the larger sized 5p and 10p coins which effectively removed the possibility of getting older shilling and florin coins including the .500 fine examples in your change. I do hear occasionally of people finding farthings in place of a 1p coin though.

Spammers come and go and so do the flaming trolls.

Now, I would love to sell at coincraft prices, but purchase at realistic!

I have read somewhere that English soldiers in Scotland during the reign of Edward I were paid 1d a day. Highly skilled labourers were paid 2d a day. Not a lot of bread could be purchased with that.

Which is interesting, because I have thought the CC cats were a bit high end on prices of coins.

Whilst you Brits are under the kippers I am awake and wishing to nuke spammers