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Those are really nice grade. More often than not, the 'silver' pieces are found with little to no coating/plating, and the iron beneath will occasionally have rust spots. Most of these are relatively common Lauer made pieces. These will have come from different sets, as there is a mixture of young head, jubilee head and diamond jubilee pieces in here. While mostly common, these are still desirable due to the good condition. The piece on the bottom right (brass model penny) is made by Joseph Moore of Birmingham. There are many different varieties/dies for this series, covered by a book by Tony Barter which is available online (I think the website was called blurb - printed to order). The only piece which I don't immediately recognise is the top right (brass/gilded jubilee Victoria head/St George rev.). Hope this is of interest. Kai
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Hi Jerry, Rogers ‘Toy Coins’ is the best reference, but it is long out of print, and quite difficult to source now. If you post some pictures on here, I can try and identify them for you, as might some of the other members. Kai
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My own example of this coin (pictured on previous page of this thread) has no trace of silvering - in fact, yours is the first I’ve seen with any silvering at all.
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Wow! Those are really rare (only the 4th I’ve seen in about 10 years), and this is by far the best one. Very very envious!
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It is listed as Rogers 609. I believe it was caused by the C getting filled on the die, so one could argue it is an error and not a variety, but Rogers does list it separately.
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Another curiosity - a perhaps 'model sovereign' signed under the bust 'LAUER' but larger than his usual 12.5mm toy coins, as this piece is 22.0mm (same as a Sovereign). Whether you could call it a model coin is debatable, but I have it as it is signed Lauer.
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No problem, agreed on the valuation - a shame if you're selling, but perhaps not if you're collecting. Here is another toy/model coin that is seldom seen - only the third example I have seen. Likely made by Joseph Moore, and mentioned in a comment in Rogers, but not listed (although he does have an example in his collection in the Fitzwilliam, so perhaps his example was acquired after publication?). Model Four Pence with the Arms of Birmingham.
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Not listed by Rogers - I’ve only seen 1 other (in my own collection). Presumably fairly scarce.
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No problem. A copy did come up on eBay a few weeks ago but has since sold or been ended. Think it was up for about £200.
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They are indeed smaller. The series ranges in size from 13mm down to 9.6mm for the Threepences.
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This curious mule is listed in Rogers as Rogers 2467. It is a nice piece to have existed as it proves that the American Model series was made by Joseph Moore, as the Obv die is the same as the Royal Medalet series. The size difference is not quite correct, as the other model coin you show is a Half Eagle ($5.00) rather than a Half Dollar.
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Here are some photos of the coins.
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Those are rare - nice find! Now that you've mentioned the 1911 series, I picked this up a few months ago. Oddly, it included a few of each denomination known, except the florin, which was missing entirely. So I think you may have the rarest of a rare set! Link: Unpublished toy coin box with 31 coins dated 1911 - £0.00 : Rare Coins and Tokens, On Line Catalogue
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That’s correct - some say this is where the saying “Know your Onions” comes from, but I can’t be sure. A (presumably) full set of these in the original mesh purse, in the original cardboard box does exist in private hands. When I remarked to the current owner that it must have been expensive, they replied “it cost an arm and three legs”.
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