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Here is an unusual item. If made by Taylor as I think it was is was probably during the 1860s to 1880s when he is known to have been re-striking many coins from the dies he acquired when the SOHO mint contents were auctioned off. The inscription is not quite correct, see my other post under heading Taylor. Has anyone seen one before, I have 2 and am aware of a third? Clearly this is badly worn from years of polishing but as a collector of SOHO and Taylor it is of interest to me.

I have 2 dishes that are most likely by Taylor. I found them both on eBay in the last few weeks having never seen one before. I have found a third photographed on this website www.oldcopper.org\/commerative_tokens.htm. The inscription is not quite correct as the coin obverse is from the 5s6d pattern of 1811 not the 1804 Dollar. There is no mark to confirm it was a Taylor product but it seems almost certain to me it must have been his output. The 2 examples are identical as far as I can see although one has much more wear and a much brighter finish from polishing. It looks to me like it is a coin soldered onto the dish rather than stamped into the dish. I am tempted to try and remove the coin from the most worn example to satisfy my curiosity to see if the coin is a uniface or if the reverse 5s6d is present

Hi here is one of my favourite coins in my collection. The 1841 proof penny is much rarer than the 1839 proof. See Michael Coins website for Michael Gouby's comments on the relative rarity and the fact that they appeared in 1839 proof sets and it is assumed this is because the 1839 die became worn. The coin is graded PR66 by PCGS. I always find getting good images through slabs very difficult, any apparent marks are on the slab not the coin

Sorry a few auto correct typing issues above - the author is L Forrer, and it is Vol VI

I have continued to research Taylor but have not managed to get copies of the documents I identified in the post about 3 weeks ago, but I have found a 1916 publication Biographical Dictionary of Medallists, Coin, Gem and Seal engravers, mint masters ancient and modern BC500 to AD1900 Volk IV by L Former a Spink publication. The book and other volumes are available as free downloads on the internet as they must be very hard to an original as the cover says limited to 300 copies. So Taylor 1802 to 1885 trained by Halliday (who had worked for Boulton as an engraver) Halliday also trained Joseph Moore and William Wyon. Taylor set up business in London 1829. Taylor does not actually appear to have gone to Australia himself but sent a coining press and complete plant to Melbourne in 1852 and Mr WR Scaiffe was in charge. Forrer credits Dr Stanley Bousefield for a lot of the information he obtained and Dr SB seems to have bought various items when Taylor's business closed in 1908. The business in Australia did not succeed in minting gold coins as planned but did produce various tokens. Back in London Taylor seems to have been mostly producing medals, but did produce patterns for French coinage 5,2,and 1 Franc and 50 centimes. He also produced penny and half penny tokens for William Till in 1834 and 35. The 1847 and 1862 Liberian coins are mentioned (I have now bought one each of these). Undated half penny token by Matthew Young. The re-striking of Soto material is mentioned but of course Peck's book deals with this is great detail. Also mentioned is re-striking of Fullerton's patterns in gold, silver and copper and white metal for 2/6, 1/6,1/- and 6d, subsequent to the earlier re strikes by Matthew Young. Finally re-striking of 1801 Devonshire County Twopenny token and various Napoleonic and Seringapatam medals The medal list quoted is quite extensive and deserves some more time to understand the quality of work but a few just to demonstrate are: Shakespeare medal 1842, Brazil coronation medal 1841, free trade medal by Taylor and Allan,

Hi I am still researching Soho and Taylor and have found references to a couple of articles I would like to read and wondered does anyone have copies of the following they could pdf to me: 1. Vice D : A Fresh insight into Soho Mint re-strikes & those responsible for their manufacture (Format Coins 1995) 2. Pollard JG:Matthew Boulton and JP Droz Numismatic Chronicle 1968 3 Pollard JG: Matthew Boulton and CH Kuchler Numismatic Chronicle 1968 Also interested in any old Format coins lists with information on coins, tokens and medals from Soho and/or Taylor Thanks in anticipation of any help available.

Thanks everyone, I now realise I had seen the these Liberian coins before but never paid much attention to them and therefore did not spot the link to Taylor. I will definitely add one or two to my collection. It looks like 1847 and 1862 are the only dates available. I am trying to pull together a full collection of coins (and potentially medals) to match the sets from the Soho auction catalogue has anyone else done this or is anyone aware if a complete set remains anywhere in a single collection as several complete sets were amongst the items auctioned? Merry Xmas

Still interested in what coin is pictured in the answer given by TomGoodheart, azda has referred to the avatar not the copper coin shown in the thread.

Many thanks for the replies. What is the coin pictured by TomGoodheart? I cannot see the inscription to identify the coin?

I have been looking for a reference work on Taylor without success. I have Peck and various other books and articles that mention Taylor but all in passing when covering Bolton and Soho. Any suggestions welcome.

Thank you for the suggestions I would like to follow up the Bryce Nielson Hanover token work, is the publication available?

I have used Exact Change and have just bought CoinManageUK2013. Both have standard images and you can load you own, and both have report tools. I would rate Exact Change 8/10 but have not used CoinManageUK enough yet to reach a conclusion but I bought it as I thought it looked better.

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Can someone help me identify a copper coin, farthing size. I have referred to Peck and Freeman and cannot identify it, it is not one of the decimal pattern series. The portrait is very similar to both the current coins and the smith on Decimal series but not the same, on the truncation there is an incuse A&M. The obverse has 1846 below the bust and Victoria to the left of the bust and Regina to the right. The edge is plain. The reverse has a crown over a crossed pair of sceptors and thistle and leaves below, in the field are lines radiating out to the edge of the coin from the crown and I assume are trying to indicate light. Thee is no lettering on the reverse at all. The coin is reasonably well struck, I will try and load a photo later today or tomorrow. Any suggestions welcome.

I have just bought a set of 3*1797 pattern pennies in an old box. I would like to try and date the box. If anyone thinks they can help I can send photos. The box is covered in snake/reptil skin - very small scales. It seems to be wood and very light. The box is lined with what I think is silk. The coins sit snuggly in what seem to be purpose made holes. The box is lozenge shape and has a long mostly concealed hinge and two hook and eye clasps. The best clue I have is that the clasps are almost identicle to those on a contempoarary box I have with the Victoria coronation medal in - although this box is leather covered. The coins themselves are not restrikes, one is an early soho and the other two are late soho. Is there anyone who thinks they can help? My only conclusion so far is the box could be at least as old as 1838 due to the similarity with the coronation box but I would like to understand if it could be earlier. As the exact dates of the late soho period seem to be uncertain I am guessing the box would not be earlier than 1805 but I guess it could be much later than 1838 in the Victorian period also.