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For me, it is not particularly important how many (or very few!!) of the wreath crowns circulated but there was the theoretical option of spending them at the time if one wished. This made them "real coins" in a sense. I just don't consider (or get excited with) commemorates which can never be spent (or even exchanged in banks these days) as genuine coins.

The ratio of crown to halfcrown ratio in circulation had never really exceeded 1:10 by mintage numbers. Hence, I think the crown denomination was never really needed. Might be it was simply reintroduced in 1887 for no other reason than "hey, we haven't minted them for decades, let's see if it catches on now". They also introduced the double florin in 1887. Might be it was a social experiment to see how the crown (which was related to the halfcrown) would compare against the double florin (which was related to the florin) in popularity?

Going back further, there was a 40 years gap when the last Young Head crowns were minted and the 1887 Jubilee crowns. Did crowns circulated in the beginning of 1880s? Probably since high grade examples are so rare and expensive. I think the question is when did Victorian / Edwardian crowns dropped out of general circulation. Did people still used them in 1900s? Probably. And in 1910s, 1920s? We are not old enough to know. If crowns were still used in limited circulation in the 1920s and 1930s, then is it not possible that a few wreath crowns would have circulated? They were minted near Christmas so that people can give them as presents and I can imagine that a few were "spent" later on. The Royal Mint presumably advertised them every year so that people know they are available for order. But I do take Peckris' point that many of the worn specimens were probably pocket pieces and the wear is not due to circulation. By the time we get to the 1965 Churchill, crowns have long stopped being circulated (even in small quantities) and it is hard to imagine people trying to spend them. Many people have quantities of these crowns and it would have been easier to take the lot to the bank.

I am rather inclined to think that some wreath crowns did circulate. Although crowns stopped to be minted after 1902, they would have remained in circulation (albeit in limited numbers) for quite a while longer. The 1935 crowns were minted in considerable number and I think it is likely that some of these have circulated. I even remember owning one in less than F condition when I was a child. The wreath crowns have the word "crown" written on it and I think that some unwanted coins have circulated along with the 1935s.

Yes, I agree. The BNTA statement wasn't very well written.

Oh, she is a counsellor. That's nice.

That's just a requirement of BNTA of its members: "Members shall guarantee in writing the authenticity of all objects offered for sale for a period of not less than 10 (ten) years from the date of sale. In case of a dispute, the issue may be considered by the Committee for arbitration."

The joke is on you when you realise that it was her pocket which swallowed the coin.

Many of the comments left after the article are pretty good. E.g. "Daily Mails New Years resolution should be don't recycle the same old coin articles again", "How many times are they gonna peddle this. The writer of this article is desperately trying to shift one on eBay!!" etc

But that's more of ego boosting or wealth-flaunting than coin collecting.

It is indeed surprising for it to be graded 65 with those marks on the cheek.

One problem is that the TPGs have been producing tables with prices for different grades. This help to promote the believe that prices only depend on grades. Things get much less scientific when they try to incorporate subjective things like toning, eye appeal, great provenance etc (which obviously affect value) into the grading number.

Just curious, did you join at the end?

The designs look too crude to be a trial (or proof) in my view. Some of the titles of the King are missing. FID DEF, IND IMP will need to be on the observe or reverse. Hence, I too think it is imitation money.

I have very much enjoyed reading my copy. I doubt there will be a second edition due to the work involved. But if a second edition were to happen, one major improvement is to ensure that each of the coins featured have large size UNC photos of the entire coins. Telling the difference between UNC and GEF is often the hardest.

1896 florin 2+A. Posting it here as it is one of my top two coins in terms of toning. Toning is better than what the photos would suggest.

PGCS photos.

It's analogous to Ebay laughs. People can only find offerings like this if they do a Google search. Then they will immediately get dozens of people trying to sell the same thing for a tiny percentage of the price. There is also a "30 day money back guarantee" on offer which should come in handy.

Incredibly difficult to find! Also look at the edge of the coin :-) Come on, make an effort with the photography. £95 p + p

Timeless British sitcom. Never fail to make me laugh no matter how many times I have watched it. Some of the signs:

Multiple system atrophy is a much rarer form of progressive neurological disorder than MS. An ex-colleague of mine had it and it is a truly dreadful disease. Sorry that you are having a really stressful time Blake. (However, drinking a good Malt or Amarone is a definite sign that you have things under control.)

I think auctioneers deliberately set low estimates with "exciting lots" to generate more interest. Then will be brag about how many times it sold above estimate. But to be honest, the coin doesn't do anything for me. It is just visually very unimpressive. An "unloved" series as VS has pointed out. I would much rather own an Edward VIII threepence if both are the same price. (But in reality, I will of course never own neither!)

It does seem likely that a mint employee has kept a coin back. But at least he didn't do it for quick money as it is resurfacing for the first time 74 years after it was minted.

Adjustment lines do reduce eye appeal and will inevitably lower the value of a coin. I imagine the impact on price can range from insignificance to considerable depending on severity and locations and also on the quality and rarity of the rest of the piece. As Rob say, it's about aesthetics. For the coin in question, there is no doubt that it would had sold more "more" money in LCA if there were no adjustment lines. The reverse lines are right in the centre and damaged the garter star. But the coin still has very good eye appeal overall and so would be welcome in quality collections. This is from the Heritage: " As a rule, adjustment marks do not reduce the value of a coin nearly as much as a series of equally visible scratches, which were not "mint-applied".