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Sometimes it is quite difficult to tell (for me anyway) if a green spot is actually verd or something else (surface junk, "dirt" etc etc). The coin is 90% silver with presumably 10% copper and so I guess verd is possible but not that likely. I agree with Pete that it is best to leave it in the slab. No point wasting the slabbing fee. And if you want to upgrade in the future and sell it, there are plenty of buyers just interested in PGCS grade numbers anyway.

I think it is worth following this up and ask Ebay for their reason in removing the negative feedback. The seller has wasted too much of your time and you will at least get some satisfaction with a permanent negative feedback.

"usually not to go by photographic evidence"?! Unbelievable! Glad it worked out.

He probably meant brilliant uncirculated. http://www.royalmint.com/discover/coin-collecting/striking-standards There is no frosting and so it can't be a proof coin to begin with.

Good idea. Nice way to get someone started with coins.

It is ironic that the seller used the CGS conversion table and graded it as AUNC and MS60-61. The coin is an ex NGC AU58 and LC itself graded it as GEF when it was "sold" in 2016. (I am inclined to think it might not have made the reserve on that occasion) Few can argue that Paulus' example has much better eye appeal. To be honest, I prefer the example I brought recently (which was also not as good as Paulus')

As I am only prepared to allocate a modest budget for my hobby, I try hard to avoid buying a coin just to “tick a box” or that is a low grade rare date or that is not visually appealing (either design or condition). This is precisely because if I do buy such a coin, I won’t get a big buzz or that “radiance feeling” as you put it. (Personally, I find it difficult to get excited with this QEII halfcrown design, no matter how rare the variety might be.) On a different note, I hope you will soon resolve this issue with the dealer.

They are not unfortunately. List of BNTA members: http://www.bnta.net/index.cfm?do=members&Title

The 1834 penny made me smile. He obviously learnt his grading from yestodtom.

Do post photos of your hammered coins if you have any doubt. Hopefully they are all genuine but it is nice to get some reassurance.

I wouldn't bother trying to tone the obverse side if I am going to sell it. Toning takes too long and the two sides of the coins will always look (very) different. I brought a coin described as 1902 crown AU from W&W when I first started collecting. It turned out to be a cleaned matt proof. It has been toning for six years on my sunny window sill and this is what it currently looks like.

Very good advice! I too would return the coin if the option is available. But it's no big deal if you can't. A decent example would cost about twice the price you have paid and so £85 sounds OK. The obverse is less than UNC IMO after the coin has been cleaned like that. The person probably realised he has damaged the coin after cleaning one side and so refrained from cleaning the other?

For me, I am quite certain they were 1947 florins and shillings. I remember putting aside George VI coins during my early teenage years . Never came across any "silver" coins in circulation. The George VI I got from circulation were always fine or below.

Didn't get anything this time and was under bidder on one lot. There were a couple that sold for less than what I would have paid. Might be should start attending auctions rather than just leaving commission bids...

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Nothing to worry about I think. Had a quick look on the web and it appears that the certificate for that coin doesn't have a white box and number. https://thelondoncoincompany.com/epages/4d237887-b78a-4f19-8c94-ebc46654c578.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/4d237887-b78a-4f19-8c94-ebc46654c578/Products/SPBRIT10-01000

I didn't realise you can take the coin out without damaging the packaging. No problem if that's the case.

I think auction houses ought to be satisfied with the money they get from the combined buyer's and sellers's commission, which in Warrington's case is 32.75%+VAT. Trying to get extra profit from charging excessive postage / storage is just unscrupulous. They are only harming themselves by these tactics.

I think it's quite likely that a batch was made before anyone noticed the problem. In the meantime take care of it. Shouldn't have taken it out of its original packaging. Put it in a coin wallet. Handle only by edge if you have to and don't put fingerprints on the surfaces. Lucky you.

Awful portrait and outrageous price. But at least the seller said it was silver plated.

I have saved eight so far from change. 3 are of the first "type", 4 of the second and 1 of the last.

This might not be so inappropriate .... Harold and Pax are on opposite sides of the coin. So when you can see Harold, you won't see Pax.

We have all heard about an ebay dealer attributing any coin with an illegible legend as Richard III. What an opportunity for him! He can pretend that that the first coin is an extremely rare error with year 1066.

This has been confirmed by Check your change (which I think is written by Chris himself) http://www.checkyourchange.co.uk/1-coins-in-circulation/2016-one-pound/ "I know of about 50 so far and as it’s hard to spot without a magnifying lens, there are probably a lot of others out there."

In terms of actual artistic merit, do you think Pistrucci’s St George and dragon design is so brilliant so that the Royal Mint is still using it after 200 years? I used to like the design a lot and it was undoubtedly very innovative and refreshing at the time. However, I now think it is very much an amalgamation of three figures (naming St George, the horse and the dragon) rather than one organic composition. St George’s torso is far too big in my view and is out of proportion with the horse. The dragon is too small to put up much of a fight. The wings of the dragons are so small and it is doubtful whether the beast could actually fly. I think the design is great only if you look at one figure at a time. Which engraving of St George and Dragon do you like best? I do like W Wyon’s (which is the one used on the front cover of Davies). Photos of Pistrucci’s and Wyon’s are shown below for comparison.