Gary1000

Nor I! I might possibly buy a pint, but I'd be as burdened as a pack horse when doing so! Glad to hear so. I was just a little perplexed by Gary D's question - it sounded like a dig at me. Sorry if you thought it was aimed at you, it wasn't mt intention. It was, maybe rather flippant, a remark about the price of a pint in a pub now days.

I just click on the time from last post on the far right, it takes you to the last post.

Without trying to highjack this topic too much and now NRP is here. My intention is to sell my collection leading up to my retirement, so in about 5-6 years time. What are the mechanics of doing this, I quite like the idea of the type of auction that CC have had over the last few years. Also what are the tax ramifications of selling a large collection. I'm just looking for generalisations here as I'm sure this would be of interest to other forum members.

Maybe. This had crossed my mind but putting it back to auction would be a big risk and the commission could be the killer. I've got 3k in it and would prefer to not take any risks.

What did you get Gary? I got the 1935 proof crown listed as ESQ 377 fine silver. Now that I have been able examine it more closely it's actually a ESQ377A 0.500 silver. The 377A according to Rayner is the rarer but having two of them doesn't make it twice as rare. The big disappointment is that I thought I was going to fill that last big hole in my collection and I don't know when another one will come up. Only having bought a couple of times from a major auction companies what are my options.

I thought that a lot of the lots went not much above estimate with quite a few between estimates. I think you could count the lots that went over double top estimate on both hands. The viccy crowns and half crowns were very strong. A lot I hadn't notice that is comming up today will be interesting, I hadn't noticed it because the set didn't include the crown. It's the 1953 coronation set and it has all of the unlisted Davies types, including the toothed penny. 20k plus anyone.

Well I got mine, I said I would be happy if I got it for twice estimate, and that's what I paid. Dam those Japs

Is anyone going to attend tomorrow?

I don't like the carbon spot right in the middle of reverse. Spoils an otherwise good coin.

Just to put this one to bed and to positively ID the fact this was a shill bid, there was a FB left for Platt in August from barrybestcoins, so we can safely say that this is another ebayer involved with MP top class buyer A+++ highly recommended 10/10 thanks for BACS payment Seller: Member ID barrybestcoins ( Feedback score of 2739) 23-Aug-13 18:37 Platt has changed his id from *classic*british*coins* to now bitish-coins-uk where you can see the FB left Just to add, another of his shill bidders is currently winning the 1827 Penny...............sonofcork with a 401 FB (yes Martin, i can see you private listing) BACS payment, that handly keeps paypal out of the loop

Just a note of warning regarding coin cabinets. You often see some on ebay that are stained MDF or something similar. The wrong wood will do terible things to your coins. Mahogany is the favourite but is expensive.

It comes to something when describing a coin as a forgery is dishonest! but I do know what you mean I suppose it comes to something when a forgery can sell for a couple of hundred, and a boring old repro sells for about £10. My problem is that it's a modern repro which you can buy for £14.99 that has been put in an old envelope rapped in a peice of news paper dated 1934. That is just designed to deceive.

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They come up on ebay regularly, as genuine obvisiosly.

Yes, I beleive two known. The other is coming to auction on the 18th. I would like it but I have my eyes on something else on the 17th. Side by side it is fairly obvious which is the proof but on its own you could be excused for thinking it's just a good example of a currency.

Having an example of both it is very difficult to tell them apart, a most uninspiring proof coin.

A contentious subject I know. Is there a safe way to remove any grime from a bronze coin without taking anything away apart from any surface dirt. Is a bit of liquid soap and water going to leave any long term effects and once clean is there a way to protect the coin. The problem I have is that all my originally BU coins are toning in my mahogany cabinet. The original red is going fast. Would the hint of say patroleum jelly be inert enough or perhaps a silicon grease. Perhaps I could just do what the victorians did and lacquer the lot.

Call me old fashioned but that stikes me as plated.

Same here ... I was quite disappointed in that there was nothing on my main target list. The 4 lots I am bidding on are all George V coins with a view to improving the quality of the dates concerned. But if I don't get them then it really isn't a problem. In contrast, the DNW sale has two coins that I really want. One is probably out of my reach financially but I will bid on the other to win. Yes I have an eye on a George V coin. It's the one gap in my collection so is a must have. I've booked the day from work to go along in person so as not to leave it to chance. I think I will have to be wearing those trousers with the very long pockets. Hopefully not a sixpence No, somewhat bigger than a sixpence

Same here ... I was quite disappointed in that there was nothing on my main target list. The 4 lots I am bidding on are all George V coins with a view to improving the quality of the dates concerned. But if I don't get them then it really isn't a problem. In contrast, the DNW sale has two coins that I really want. One is probably out of my reach financially but I will bid on the other to win. Yes I have an eye on a George V coin. It's the one gap in my collection so is a must have. I've booked the day from work to go along in person so as not to leave it to chance. I think I will have to be wearing those trousers with the very long pockets.

Also OPR has a time limit which you might struggle with having coins slabbed.

It's my understanding that the mint workers were very helpful in giving the 1902 proof set a good wipe before they left the mint. I don't know how true this is but I have seen a few 1902 proofs with parallel lines.

The gap between the shield and the rim should be a dead give away.

Precisely my point. Yes, I agree. I've hardly ever seen a worn (below GVF) specimen, and the 'pocket piece' theory of the few that did wear is as good an explanation as any. With the average weekly wage in 1930 being about £4 or 16 Crowns you could buy quite a lot for 5/-. I would suggest that up until the early twenteith century crowns were widely circulated. Even into the 30s they must have being in common use. The Royal Mint would vehemently disagree. They stopped producing them for currency after 1900 precisely because public demand for them had fallen away. Why that is, I don't really know, but having grown up in the 1960s with ten bob notes, halfcrowns, etc, I never felt that there was a lack of an intermediate denomination. I imagine that one possible cause of their unpopularity was their sheer size, which of course did for the Cartwheel twopence, though that was bigger still. There's no evidence that they circulated widely in the 1930s. The opposite in fact - Wikipedia says "The British crown was always a large coin, and from the 19th century it did not circulate well." What I was trying to say is that the people in the 30s were probably not strangers to the crown compared to now.

Yes, I can see crowns being used as five bob in the 19th century, but in the 1940s? Really? I wonder if there's any research or numbers as to what constituted circulating coinage in a particular era. Now that would be interesting. The Veiled Head crowns were issued for circulation, so they must have been circulating freely at least till the 1920 debasement. They would have been top targets for reclamation by the Mint after that though, you'd have thought. The Crown is legal tender still so when else would they have circulated?