Paddy

..and finally for now, Wurtemburg:

This is Bavaria:

I think this thread needs som pictures - here are some of mine. First - probably my favourite - Frankfurt:

I can't say I seriously collect them, but when I nice one falls into my possession I tend to keep them in my "tangents" album. Particularly the crown size ones - I see I have 12 so far - Prussia, Bavaria, Wurtemburg, Frankfurt and early Empire so far. Some of them are very handsome - better designs than most of the modern RM stuff.

This from the BBC about the contemporary forgery of an early Saxon Gold coin: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-47679789

Even I can see that the R and I of BRITT are touching, which makes it Obverse 12 and therefore can't be an 1882 no H. PS - I have emailed DNW with that same view.

I'm not sure this is relevant - when I view Ebay pictures, even when the bottoms are hidden by the thumbnails, I still get the white enlarge box when I hover over the pic. When I move this down I still see the all the parts of the picture, even the part covered, so I can't see the problem. The only time you don't get the enlarge box is when the pixel count of the uploaded picture is too low to support enlargement - and that is a problem for the seller to resolve rather than Ebay.

Yes - same applies to the Hungarian Denars of the same era - I found 7 in a job lot of foreign coins bought cheaply recently. No reason to doubt their authenticity and sadly worth only a few quid each.

I am never certain I have these right and I know there are people here who seem to be able to ID these at a glance! I believe this is Edward III Penny, Third Coinage Class 2 - S1544, but please tell me if I am right or wrong. Thanks,

I begin to understand why this one created so much comment when it turned up in my date run!

One of the metal detectors I meet in the market has asked me about this coin. I believe it is S2254 "Tentative issue" Groat without mintmarks. Am I right? I have not seen it in hand yet - these pics from the enquirer. Can anyone see any indicators towards it being a forgery? Does anyone know of any forgeries of this coin turning up?

Thanks Rob! Yes, I probably could do with more literature but Hammered are a bit of a sideline for me, so I resist spending lots of money on books on it when I would rather spend it on coins. Besides, with experts available online... 😉

Here is the dilemma - this is the Henry VII Groat I currently have, which I believe is S2198a. It is a more common issue but fills the bill in terms of a reasonably decent Henry VII coin - so how much should I invest in an upgrade? By the way, in reviewing this coin I notice that the devices around the mint lettering on the reverse appear as 3 sprogged circles a bit like the modern Nuclear symbol, whereas the pictures in Spink suggest a 5 petalled flower - cinquefoil. Is this another known variation?

This is my only one - not one of the scarcer ones but attractive enough. Pity about someone scratching WW into the obverse.

OK - I agree with the aim! Just the comment on the angle of the crown - compared to your picture it is higher at the back, but that seems right for the S2254, at least as presented in Spink. I think I can see nothing wrong with the coin. The more difficult question is should I be buying it, and if so, for how much? 🙂 I would like to have it, but I already have a reasonable Henry VII in my monarch run, so it is not an urgent need. But there again - it is a lovely example!

Is not the difference two different coins in Spink? The my OP ones is S2254, whereas the one @Coinery posted looks to be S2258? From the pics in Spink that seems to match the difference in the crown position, although they make more point about the number of bands on the crown...

I got to see this coin today. The "copper" streak was rust from the environment in which it had been found - a little light work with a finger nail removed it completely. The coin appeared genuine to me, the colour being darker and more evenly toned than the pictures suggested. Weight was 2.91g. Does that change anyone's opinion?

I am delighted that Peter Rabbit's latest "friends" would happily make a meal of him!

I picked up an old collection of Farthings the other day - mostly for upgrades to my own collection. I have loaded the 19 I will use as upgrades to my Onedrive folder at: https://1drv.ms/f/s!Alos83kNwyLnsi3O4FW1J24Chp4K as there are too many to post individually here. (There are 19 in this folder from 1675 to 1863 and another 21 I have not photographed as they are not going into my collection, and will go for sale.) I hope those of you who enjoy farthings can get some pleasure out of reviewing them! A few queries too: 1. The 1721 is the "dot after date" variety. In Spink this is listed as only a little scarcer than normal, but I can find no example sold on Ebay recently. Does anyone have information on how much scarcer this actually is? 2. The 1863 seems to be 3a and Bb using the codes on @Colin G. site - but I can't see any trace of the slender 8 under the 8. Is this a different reverse die or is it just my poor eyesight? 🙂 3. Have I missed any other variety in this lot? For those who can't be bothered to use the link, here is on of my favourites - the 1749 Farthing, which, despite the obverse scratches, seems pretty good to me!

If anyone is still interested, I have added a whole load more pictures to the "Upgrade" folder at: https://1drv.ms/f/s!Alos83kNwyLnsi3O4FW1J24Chp4K Some of these are upgrades, some new (to me) varieties. A few queries, if anyone can help me: 1. I have the 1846 down as 1a & B - but the aboutfarthings website has no picture of the 1a - am I right? 2. I have the 1864 down as 3 & Bc - but the website does not offer this as a combination. Have I got it wrong? 3. I have the 1879 down as 5a & Ce - but again the website does not offer this as a combination. Have I got it wrong? Have I got anything else wrong? @Colin G. if any of the pics are any use to you for the website, feel free to use. Thanks,

Sadly the guy with this coin couldn't make it today - hopefully next Wednesday.

It seems to have been a week for farthings. This one came in a job lot from an auction - I got it hoping this would be an upgrade to my standard 1700, but when I looked closer I spotted the apparent RRITANNIA version. Is this what it is supposed to look like or is this just a damaged die? My other one has a very clearly completed B.

Thanks for that - very useful site! Also answers my question on the other farthing thread about 1699 with no dot before or after the date. There is one, number 527, and it is listed as Extremely rare - so that is a good one for my collection too!

Thanks for that Peter. Is there somewhere I can view that collection? I have tried his selling website and can't see a 1700 RRITANNIA there.

Thanks for that. As I read Spink there shouldn't be a dot after the date on 1699, only on 1698 - but I do find their wording confusing sometimes. I still suspect the dot before the date is missing - if nothing else the gap between the A and the 1 is much smaller than on my other example (viewable in the link in the original post). But I acknowledge that with a relatively low grade example, I can't prove it! Now, do I keep it as a possible variant, or flog it? (That is a rhetorical question - only I can decide that I know.)