Red Riley

Just to confuse you it's Gouby obverse J - much easier to look up than Freeman - whatever, it is still the most common of the lot. That type of reverse should have a sig. Have a look under the shield.

It's 6 + H. Still scarce and worth quite a bit in that condition.

If all you want to know is 'what is available?', then the cheapest option for you is to buy an out of date Spink on e-bay which might cost you a couple of quid but would give you a good grounding in the history of coins in England and the UK. Obviously prices would be out of date, but if that doesn't worry you, then it's a 'best buy'.

Perhaps it was produced during the process of training up a new operative. Such items would almost invariably have been returned to the melting pot but maybe this one escaped. Incidentally, I did want to thank Chris for pointing out that the 1883 sixpence I have on my website is actually an unrecorded variety not listed in Rayner or Davies and as such worth rather (OK a lot) more than I was charging.

As a collector I agree with you 100%. I always kept the odd lower grade penny, common dates in my frontline collection and I never did own a lustrous 1899, 1905, 1911 or 1922 penny simply because I liked the strike/toning of the coins I already held or because the process by which I acquired them was memorable in some way. As a dealer it's different and I wouldn't have bought the lower grade coins in a hundred years as they would be very difficult to dispose of. I hope this comes out OK but I love virtually everything about this coin, which to my mind has masses more character than a purely lustrous specimen;

The mint produced 'maundy' fourpences dated 1702, which is interesting because technically he had died in 1701.

Sour faced old rat bag. No not you 400!

This thread is suffering from acute subject drift, but hey I'll go with the flow. Although they too are suffering from unpopular owners, it's not Manyoo that I want to see in free fall, at least they have some kind of sustainable business model despite the owners debts being lumped onto the club, no I am waiting for the day when Roman Abramovic decides he would rather have a Formula 1 racing team than a football club and Chelsea head back to the Southern League at the speed of a Peter Osgood piledriver.

I don't think the problem at Liverpool is the manager (let's face it, Roy Hodgson was about the best around in August this year) but the lack of quality in the squad probably brought about by cash constraints and the bizarre owners you've had in recent years. Personally I think Liverpool could have some way to fall yet. However, every cloud has a silver lining and if you ask me nicely, I can get you a free ticket for the away league match at Wycombe Wanderers.

Good idea. If the coins turn out to be worth zip then you won't have wasted any money.

I can understand that you don't feel the need to profit from them and don't particularly want the hassle of selling them on e-bay. Unfortunately, the time for them to appeal to real collectors as opposed to speculators is not yet and you would have the Dickens of a job preventing those whom you gave the coins to from selling them at a profit. As a previous contributor said, if you want someone to benefit, then give them or sell them at face value to a charity who would be only too pleased to get volunteers to sell them on their behalf. Up to you of course...

Agree 100% Rob. I simply had to make a choice, I couldn't afford to collect the coins that I was now hankering after, so I had to bite the bullet and put everything up for sale as the core of a business.

It certainly shouts 'Italian' but I'm going 16th century. OK, here's my punt - Venetian, 1560. Keep us informed Huss, I'll be fascinated to learn just what it is.

I think you just have to bite the bullet and accept returns in all circumstances. May hurt your pride occasionally but should prevent negative feedback, and to be fair, most buyers are honest so shouldn't cause a disproportionate amount of hassle.

My father was stationed in Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch during the war and he taught me how to say it, but that is about the limit of my Welsh. Anyway, welcome to the forum Sion.

Actually it had ended by the time I got round to messaging him, but by none of us doing so we are our own worst enemies. If everybody messaged sellers mis-describing their coins, then its incidence, although unlikely to be totally eliminated, would at least dramatically reduce. Yes there are many instances of it on e-bay, but that doesn't make it right. I know it's a bit heavy for something as minor as this, but to quote Edmund Burke; 'All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing'. Q.E.D.

Perhaps we should all deluge him with 'points of information'.

Apart from the obvious ones (beaded border, LCW under foot) I find it impossible to commit the 1860/61 rare varieties to memory, and have to work with Gouby (more user friendly than Freeman) to establish what is what. I suspect I have developed '400 syndrome'.

This deja vu thing would have made some sense if my 2 posts had immediately followed that in which deja vu was first mentioned, but there was a sudden glut of postings which rather destroyed the effect. All the schemes of mice and men...

And a merry Christmas and a happy New Year from me as well. Remember if you're still standing 10 o'clock Christmas night, you aren't doing it right!

Should be approx. 28.4g. As it is likely that only one or two (if any) 1934 crowns found their way to China, then any defects to the original coin will be repeated on the reproduction. Essentially the process used is for the forger to employ the genuine coin as a hub from which he then cuts a die and ultimately copy coins from that die. For this reason, many of the copies are far from high grade and can be as low as fine. Unfortunately I do not know the particulars of any 1934 forgeries but someone else on here may know, failing that a search of the internet might yield an answer. Incidentally, there was a previous wave of forgeries emenating from the Middle East.

... and some of us are pretty stupid. Welcome to the Forum.

The experience of perceiving a new situation as if it had occurred before?

The experience of perceiving a new situation as if it had occurred before?

Another odd thing is that there's no rhyme or reason as to who gets it. The fittest people sometimes succumb whereas those you would least expect are completely unaffected. Presumably comes down to genetics.