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Ah, yes I collect them, but it is only recently I got into pre-decimal pennies so these two are the only ones I have come across on pre-decimal pennies. I Usually collect hammered coins and early milled. I have a couple of 20ps that have terrible die cracks, or strike errors, one has the Queen's face with what looks like a whirlpool, and one that looks like arabic writing scrawled down the Bust image. Sorry Peckris. I don't Photobucket either, after uploading a pic, I can never find them, but it's free and accepts large mbs

Just looked at it through my loupe, and I am wondering if the dirt between the teeth are causing an illusion, of the first 4 being more over the tooth than it is. Anyway although I have taken another photo that is quite large, it is still not very good: http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p328/rebelesque/IMG_0640.jpg

This forum was recommended to me by a member on another forum because I had a question about the 1920 George V rarer penny. I have one of these in which the colon after imp points to a tooth, and all the other characteristics of this variety, including the tiniest dot by the one in the date. Despite numerous searches on the Internet and at online auctions I have not been able to find a value for this coin. If anyone has any information please can you advise. Thanks.

I shall try and get a clearer better picture Accumalator, because I would really value your opinion.

But here it is anyway: http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p328/rebelesque/1911.jpg

Ah I see it now, still don't see it on mine though. I would take a photo, but I am afraid of the pity and head shaking that may result from my efforts The 'I' of BRITT is also a bit confusing as that 'I' on the pic looks like mine - off to the left

I have a 1911 with a Britt 'I' to the left of tooth, the vertical line 'R' of GRA pointing to a tooth. FID 'I' to Gap. DEF : to tooth. No hollow neck (although I don't really get the hollow neck part, but mine looks like th flat neck in the picture above)Many varieties indeed

Do you mean the 1944 Accumalator?

Actually I found a thread on here today concerning the 1944 pointing at beads. So I have some info at last. Groom does cover it but I got more info off here.

Going through my pennies looking at oddities, saw this tiny tail sticking out from the 8 on a 1948 penny. Stamp over or mint error or something else? http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p328/rebelesque/eight.jpg

Lol it is definately there Declan that little tail, but as you say not photographed very well.

Although I do agree it is not the rare variety 1920. It is definately not the Obverse 3 either as there are quite a few differences between Ob 3 and the one I have. Also I have looked at Accumalator's 1944 and mine is different again, so there must be many more viarieties than what have been discovered in Groom's book, and others. My 1944:

LOl, I use Accumalator's site so much; ave done for months. Beautiul pennies. But I have never checked out the 1922 1927 reverse. Shall do so now

Thank you Peter, Paulus and Accumalator. You're all very helpful and I appreciate and respect your input.

Pic of full Obverse in higher format and size: http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p328/rebelesque/fullob.jpg

Thanks for you responses., I really appreciate your input. Yes Declan, I love looking for varieties. For example I have a 1944 that has both 4s pointing at teeth And I really recently found a 1926 Modified Effigy. The 1922 reverse 1927 still eludes me as does the 1897 High tide. It is fascinating

Also the tapering and the Fid Def are different: It looks like the Def on the one I thought was rare is further away The none rare I thought was rare (lol) is on the top. http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p328/rebelesque/fiddef.jpg http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p328/rebelesque/taperingT.jpg

Just out of interest, this is a pic of two 1920. The one on top is the one I thought was the rare 1920, and there seems to be a an extra bit running down the side of the A in GRA. I am not clutching at staws lol, I just see so many differences between these two 1920s http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p328/rebelesque/grabritt.jpg

Yes thanks for the pictures Declan. There is a big difference between the gap of the OB 3 GRA BRITT and the OB 2. I have not managed to see a comparison as with the pictures you have shown. I really appreciate the effort thanks so much.

I got the David J Groom book and compared this coin to another 25 1920s I have.. Now unfortunately the teeth on this have worn on the top near the imp. But all the other characteristics check out. Also I have looked at the IMP colon through a loupe and it is pointing at what would be a tooth. One characteristics in Groom's images the DEF IND colon under a tooth, but I checked all my 1920 and the colon is pointing at a tooth. In the one I am thinking is the rare one the colon points between the teeth of Def IND. Also Groom mentions a raised dot near the 1 of the date, mine too has this dot.