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Hi all, A rather cheeky request, however would anyone be interested in volunteering a few hours of their own time to help me identify and research an entire English Civil war Hoard i have bought. With almost 100 odd coins i want to identify which type shillings they are by using Sharp references, etc. Happy to cover the individuals travel fees to London (amusing they are UK based) and can pay you in Coffee (haha) Location and date to be confirmed ... Many thanks

We would be more than happy to buy this from you. Please feel free to contact us regarding a valuation

For those who helped research and those who have commented on this link i have now published the Hoard Catalogue. Please find below a link to the listing. I hope its an enjoyable read The Winchester Hoard Catalogue

& an example of one of the Charles I half crowns from the hoard. This being a Group III, Type3a1 mm Tun half crown (S.2773; N2209)

We finally started to photograph the Hoard today. Here is an example of one of the Cahrles I Shillings. Identified by two fellow members on here as Group E Sharp e2/2 mm Crown Shilling

I'd say its a £2,000 - £2,500 coin to the right buyer. In todays market condition is everything and although its a rare date, given the marks etc the coin has ilimited appeal, perhaps as an affordable gap filler. AMR have just sold a nice one at £5000

I'll be undertaking the mammoth task of Photographing the entire hoard this weekend and i'll post some results up once they are done

Hi yes of course could you DM me your email address and i'll do it know

Which macro lens do you use? I have a Nikon DSLR but it would appear that there are several macro lenses available from 40mm all the way up. We use at present a Tamron 90 mm Macro lens

We use photoshop for that

this is one where i photgraphed the coins individually

You could take them from the box and photograph them individually or i always find shooting them with a high above light source and being fairly far away from them using a macro lense works. This was one i took the other day using the second method i mentioned

.Nah, I just don't th. . . LOL Yes please! Shillings and coffee, the perfect combination! Plus it'd be nice to meet at last. Feel free to pm me with details. . Thank you so much for the reply. I shall DM you details many thanks

I could cover your the train ticket from Heathrow

Anyone seen their new list ? Some great pieces ! If Only my pockets were deeper ...

Whether your opinion is the new list is overpriced or not, one thing for sure is the coins are clearly selling quickly! I enquired about 4 and only got one

The problem is, as we all know the coin market "at the top end" is in a bit of a bubble and to get the best material to sell (or to keep), dealers and collectors are having to pay well over book price to get them. I imagine this is partly the case with this current list (Possibly the crowns are from an individuals collection). That being said i still think some of the coins are good buys like BH114 The Charles I mm castle Crown - Its an expensive piece but in terms of the current market, it could be considered value for money. I would presume the finest known specimen and excuse my french but flippin' rare !

Good Afternoon All, Is anyone attending this Saturdays London Coin Fair at Coram Street ?

I agree a really wonderful and enjoyable read.

Morning yes it is very rare rated as R6 (4 - 6 known) in Michael Marsh's book "The Gold Half Sovereign". Of course this is a slightly dated referance book however it is an extremely rare coin - and one i would certainly buy if it was for sale

Having just double checked Philip Nelsons book "The Obsidioal Money of the Great Rebebellion" it mentions about the Gold Unite ... " This unique coin is struck from circular dies, upon an octagonal flan (Fig. 47). It weighs only 138-5 grains, although the full weight of the unite at this period was 14C5 grains. The recent history of this coin is that it was presented by Bath King-of-arms, F. H. Barnewall, to Sir Thomas G. Cullum, Bart., ancl was for a number of years on exhibition in the library of Trinity College, Cambridge. His grandson, Mr. G. Milner-Gibson-Cullum, exhibited it at the Stuart Exhibition of 1885, after which it passed into the collection of thelate Mr. Montagu. At the sale of his collection, it was purchased for the late Mr. Murdoch, from whose cabinet, at its dispersal, it came into the possession of Messrs. Spink."

I have read that the gold piece was made as a gift for a important visiting royalist, I would therefore presume, given that so few two shilling pieces are known the same would apply.

It is a strange one, it's basically on a much larger flan with no mark of value. Apparently there are only 3 known. This one sold at St James, the brooker example (which was pierced and plugged) and another. Presumably like the unique gold Pontefract shilling (which I'm told has in the past few years sold privately for a huge six figure sum) the "two shillings" would have been struck as presentation pieces.

Very interesting topic... In my opinion and I hope not to offend anyone but the whole point of having any coin "graded" would be too increase it's value and unfortunately there is no alternative than PCGS or NGC for doing this. I've made this comment before on a previous thread but CGS have alienated themselves by using a different grading scale. This craze of super high prices being paid for slabbed ms65, etc grade coins, is extremely strong on the international market. I can't really see a US or Japanese buyer paying £30,000 for a CGS slabbed gothic crown for example, yet they regularly do for NGC and PCGS specimens. The only place where a CGS coin will excel is at a London coins sale. Therefore using the CGS's service,because they are "cheaper" could well be a huge mistake when it becomes time to sell your beloved collection. I personally feel that the CGS slabs look rather cheap. If they could improve their branding and presentation maybe they would attract a larger audience.

I had a go at the 1648 pontefract two shilling, but i was way out ! ended up selling for 46,000 + Comm (£59,800)