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I'm adding it to my rare penny site - can someone tell me about its provenance, e.g. was it advertised/sold on Facebook ? Don't worry, I've just seen the Facebook entry.

Thanks Mick. Due to my lousy broadband, that picture wasn't showing yesterday evening. Today it's fine.

Could someone post the reverse please as I can't get to the Facebook page.

It's gone !!!

Just to confirm it's not genuine, it doesn't have the die flaw by the O of ONE.

I've temporarily added this to my rare penny site as a "non-example" just in case someone looks on there but I guess the people who are bidding on this coin are probably not aware of the site.

Are you calling me a nerdy type ? Surely that must be classified as a hate crime ?

Lukasz certainly has got green fingers when it comes to finding rarities.

I think that, apart from DNW or Baldwins, the quality of their photography is their own worst enemy. I wouldn't buy based on the pictures from Spink or LCA.

Back in 1987 I asked in my local Barclays bank whether they had any mint sealed bags of the new smaller 50p and they let me have one - I still have it although that year saw one of the biggest numbers struck. Probably worth no more than face value.

I agree. Actually, are there any known instances of a mass melting with no surviving specimens (obviously difficult to prove) ?

Parcelforce phone number is 0344 800 4466 in case you need it.

If it comes by USPS, remember my experience. I rang Parcel Force yesterday and actually spoke to a human who said "you should have had 2 letters from us". Well, I didn't and they didn't even apologise. Simply confirmed that it had been returned to the US. Customer Service ? - it's gone the way of the Dodo.

OK, here's another theory. The metal for the creation of a working die has to be annealed, i.e. heated up to soften it to allow the punch to create the incuse image before plunging it into water to harden it. Is it possible that the would-be die might not soften uniformly upon heating and when the punch slams down into the softened metal, the highest points of the punch (which create the lowest part of the die which will in turn create the highest point of the struck coin) comes up against harder (i.e. less soft) metal and does not create as sharper a mould as it should ?

Surely it must be caused by something a bit more robust than grease ? The power with which a die strikes a blank would drive grease out of its way ?

Is a picture of the whole reverse available Terry ?

Umm. I'm not sure I'd include that one on the basis of that photograph.

Just emailed it to you.

No thanks, just the close-up of the date, which I've downloaded now.

Mike, I can email you a scan.

Cliff, I've started to build a page of copper penny date styles - can I use your picture please ?

I wish I'd known that before. I've just entered the tracking no. into Parcelforce and there was a complete history. Apparently they issued customs charges in September (which I never received) and eventually sent it back to the US because the customs fees weren't paid. What a cock-up !

No, I sold it for what I paid for it. I'm not in coin collecting to make money.

On a slightly different note, but still worth noting in the current climate, is that I bought a golf club from the USA a couple of months ago. The USPS tracking data shows it to be delivered to a "facility" in the UK on 5th October. However, it's not possible to contact USPS to find out more details and so this is another non-delivered item. These are (relatively) dangerous times to be mailing items.

No, I sensibly insured it for the price I sold it - ~£2350