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Small unaltered date please. It may turn our that 8 over 6 is also rare but I'll get around to that later.

Having put the 1858 Large Rose Small Date up on my rare penny site, I then checked on the frequency of normal small date 1858 pennies and they seem equally as rare at first glance. London Coins has 9 large date types mis-attributed to small dates, with only 2 genuine (non-large rose) specimens in their archives. I have now added this type to the website and would be pleased to hear of more examples (with pictures please).

There are always plenty in coin auctions although it's often not clear what size coins the trays are drilled for.

As originally posted to kick off this theme, my 1862 over 1 was sent on 3rd August 2020 to Scotland but never arrived. Tracking shows it still in the system but who knows where.

Does anyone know the website of this auction house ? There appears to be several auctioneers with similar names.

Yes, good idea - get it started, Jerry, and I'll add details of my lost penny.

I have received a cheque from Royal Mail covering the item and postage so I'm compensated although I've lost a potential source of investment growth and the buyer might still obtain a rare coin at zero cost if it turns up.

Does anyone know if this "much smaller figures" is different from the regular small date type ?

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One of my favourites - had the chance to see him in Oxford a couple of years ago (aged 80-ish I believe). I'll always regret not getting tickets.

I'm currently going through the claims process with the Royal Mail. An ex-police friend of mine reckons it was a common occurrence in his day (special deliveries going missing).

Thanks John - do you still have pictures ?

Looking through auction archives, the genuine 1854 over 3 does seem to be a rare coin and, as such, I'm going to add it to my rare penny site. I'd be grateful for any photos from members please.

Mine's the same as John's.

Mine's the same as John's.

Thanks, Jerry.

Many thanks, Ian. Here's another subtle variation. .

A question - does the 1858 penny (P1518 no W.W.) only exist with the large date ?

I know who bought it and I also know that he's been looking at the rare penny site recently........................

Oh yes.

While I was proof reading Michael's new update, the section on these 1898 pennies got me a little confused. To me, Terry's top example and Jerry's example seem to have a slightly different font (with a larger upper loop and possibly lower loop) for the final 8 from Terry's lower example (the "normal" 1898B) so the question is whether they are different date widths of 1898B or whether they are different types altogether, i.e. 1898B and 1898C. I am currently having this discussion with Michael.

Last Monday I posted a rare 1862 over 1 penny (Example 2 on my rare penny site) to Scotland by Special Delivery. It never arrived and has been lost in the Royal Mail's process (noted as received at the Post Office with no further notifications). They have advised me to make a formal claim. Can I ask anyone who spots it being advertised for sale to contact me via this site.

Back to 1858 Large Rose pennies. I have added this variety to my rare penny site, choosing only to picture the small date type as they seem genuinely rare. I'd be grateful for any further pictures from members.

Absolutely - it's the love of collecting that we have in common, not necessarily the items we collect.