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Yes, I don't know whether he's invented these "new" Freeman varieties or they were described as such when he bought them. He described his website as being designed more for "beginners" as opposed to mine which he describes as more for "experts". I'd probably use the term "pedants" 😀

Be patient - I only sent Michael 6 pages of comments from proof reading last Thursday so it will be a while before official updates are available.

Obverse M has 22 fewer teeth than obverse P such that there are only 5 border teeth from the upright of the R to the top of the I in VICTORIA (6 on Obverse P) and the tip of the outer tie ribbon points out rather than down. Of course, the teeth have to be still visible for this distinction but it is a striking difference.

No Mike, it's an update of the 1860-1901 Victoria book. There a couple of 1 page additions/replacements for new obverses/reverses such as the new Obverse with 145 teeth, and section 3 (pages 33 to 94) has been effectively re-written to include new varieties, mostly different date widths and/or overdates. New pages have been added with a suffix. e.g Page 34A so that the total of pages will have increased by a dozen or so, but that entire section will need to replaced in the binder with the new pages.

Added - thanks for the heads up. Price seems spot on to me.

Thanks Mike and thanks also to Cliff Davies who mailed me scans of the 3 pages.

Changing the subject, I "swapped" collection websites today with Kevin Booth who has now put his impressive penny collection up onto a website and is happy that I share its URL with Forum members. it's Kevin's penny collection

Anyone got a copy ?

Great example !

Yes, I'm not yet convinced.

Anyone else got a wavy 2 ? I'd like to see more examples.

Great info, Ian - thanks.

Could you post a photo of the wavy one please.

Not quite - section 3 (pages 33 to 94) has been updated in its entirety with new varieties and pictures, so several new pages with suffixes (but not 94) - I'm helping with the proof reading.

I think I can remember that............................................................................................................maybe not

The subliminal reason I picked "Secret Santa" as my Forum name !

Any idea of the ratio of 1856 PT small and large dates, Ian ?

Yes, it's the book that got me hooked on pennies.

"No sweat" said a spokesman for Prince Andrew.

As we get more and more divided by issues like Brexit, left v right, handling of the virus, etc, you may have a point.

Now, there's a surprise - with auctioneering behind closed doors, record prices are achieved.

That's wonderful - are you sure he wasn't just watching the 6 o'clock news ?

Have you not seen the morons on the beach and at illegal raves..............................?

Pete You seem to have suddenly become digitally proficient - what's your secret ?

That's a lovely example, John - is it a new acquisition ?