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It's example 1 of 8 on my rare penny site.

Hopefully not - there's at least half a dozen of these.

Yes, monetary value was never a consideration in my collecting although I was always hoping that it would hold its value in case I found myself with the need for costly medical attention or care.

This reflects my own view - I think I have missed out on the optimum time to dispose of my collection so the question is whether to wait and hope for an upturn or cut my losses and sell before things get worse?

It's lot No 2082, but it's got a dash against it in the realised prices? Yes, it wasn't sold. I was listening and the auctioneer tried hard to get 80K for it but no-one would bid. He then passed it but said "see me later" so there may have been someone there wanting to negotiate on commission or something like that ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/One-penny-1p-Rare-1897-Collection/123803223214?hash=item1cd33f44ae:g:A0EAAOSw8W9cxEQ6 Fill your boots !

Offers ?

I dropped the possibility into conversation with my wife and her face left me in no doubt as to her view.........

Absolutely - it appears there's nothing to stop anyone inventing a new Freeman number for an unrecorded "variety" and pulling the wool over the eyes of unsuspecting collectors not fully au fait with the range.

*And is now for sale again in the Baldwins Hong Kong auction on 25 June (lot 752) !

18.00 now - what on earth can be going on in Spink ? How can we take them seriously any more ?

Now 17.30 - what a total shambles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the 1952 penny didn't sell at £80 grand...............................................

Pete, sorry I hadn't realised that there were 2 1909 dots in the Workman sale - the other one was sold by Baldwins on 20 March, lot 118 for £248.

Today's auction is still not open and highly likely not to, I'd imagine.

Pete, I don't think that it's the Workman specimen; definitely the Crocker one but your point is well made. It appears to me that the collecting of pennies by Freeman (and Peck) variety is dying on its feet. My own collection will soon be worthless....................

No, the website says it now starts on the 17th.

Lo and behold - it's been postponed; bit like Brexit - maybe we'll never see it !

An interesting excerpt regarding the 1882 no H penny: When studying the Victorian bronze series it is essential to work rigidly to the principle that no new variety is acceptable unless it is entirely beyond question. Details in the designs of this series cannot be satisfactorily studied from worn coins, though, unfortunately, this is attempted by some collectors. The fact that only two really fine, undoubted examples of this penny have turned up during the nine years since this catalogue was first published is ample evidence of the scarcity of these pieces. Any worn pieces, seemingly without H, can now be re-examined in a much more favourable light. Craig tells us (The Mint, p. 335) that 'the Mint stopped work on 1 February 1882 for ten months'—for reconstruction. During this period the coining of bronze was undertaken by Heaton and it is extremely unlikely that the Mint would be in a position to strike any bronze during the January preceding this upheaval. This leaves December as the period during which these pennies without H were almost certainly struck —doubtless a small issue to tide over

Well, it starts today and still no access.

Thanks Mike

I've just looked at BNJ 1967 and there's no page 196-8 unless I'm doing it wrong - are you sure it's 1967 ?

Freeman did miss some genuine goodies......................

There was a previous e-auction that never appeared and was never heard of again.

Starts tomorrow and still not there..............