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Thanks for the exerpt of history Robbie, great coin too, I especially like the simplicity to it! The only square coin I know of (because I've not been paying much attention to them in all honesty) is the one which comes in the proof sets (I think possibly Irish ones too). I like the background to that coin you have there, did it cost you much out of interest?

Hi Robbie, I only joined recently, but it really is a great forum and some great help here too so welcome back. Can I ask what the second picture is of? Matt

Hi Richard, Unfortunately I'm in the same boat as you regarding pre 1800 coins but what I can say is that if your highest offer is £130 (and they're willing to offer an upfront price on an auction style sale) then more than likely the realised price will be higher than this, whether it is slightly or vastly, I cannot confirm. Don't despair, however, as there will be some comprehensive advice on it's way I'm sure. Probably by Rob from what I have seen so far

Strange colour - you'd expect a KN to have the characteristic red colour. That one looks like my 19H, except mine has virtually no hair detail, the die was so worn! 1919H penny obv:rev.jpg Nice! Is it ever the case where the London mint supplied planchets to the either Heaton or Norton or is this just true the other way round? I'd not heard that they did, though I don't know enough about the Heatons/Royal Mint relationship in the 19th Century. However, given that Heatons were employed to take the strain off the RM, it wouldn't make much sense for the Mint to then undergo the huge effort of making planchets. Certainly if London supplied Kings Norton, they wouldn't mostly have that red terracotta colour. Yes that is certainly a good point. Strange then, perhaps they had a batch which used the same composition of metals as did the Royal Mint. I've also done a few searches for the bun pennies you've mentioned, they look relatively affordable in comparison to some of the others, so thank you for the advice there..

Hi everyone, I've posted a few times on the site but not really introduced myself properly so thought I would.. I'm Matt, I'm 24 and from Milton Keynes. My interest in coins started a few years back when the Olympic 50ps came out and the designs really intrigued me so I set about collecting them knowing there were 29 designs out there. I had a little trick where, at work, I would load a vending machine up with £5-10 worth of pound coins because it vended the change in 50ps and I'd occasionally get an Olympic one. About a year past and I finished the whole collection without, I can proudly say, purchasing any from Fleabay. This spurred me on to expand on my enjoyment of collection coins so I decided to collect the whole range of UK 50ps and now have them all including the now infamous 'Kew Gardens' and also the much rarer (IMO) EEC 50p. Funnily enough I picked up a beauty of the EEC from Preloved for about £3 (good times haha). I started to notice other coins on Ebay and other places while searching and I guess it was just love at first sight when I stumbled across the penny. I, like probably most of you on here, then fell into a wonderful spiral of buying and selling coins everywhere and anywhere I could, slowly building on my own collection and keeping back the few gems I could get at a good price. To the present day and I've got 2x books ('The Standard Guide to Grading British Coins' and 'The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain') and a penny collection between 1918 - 1967 (including a 1901 and 1902) ranging between gEF and UNC. I should point out I only have the 1919kn penny from the KN and H range before you ask to see any pictures haha, and that's only around VF. I've also got a folder full of the nice examples I can afford to keep and these go up from farthing to crown, but I don't can't do gold just yet. From what I can tell, I was invited to this forum by Accumulator after stumbling across his penny collection on t'internet and emailing him to express my aweness so thanks to you, because so far it's been a great read and I'm learning a lot, fast. On a side note I may have met a few of you already, I was the young red head lad wondering around the National Motorbike Museum at the Midland coin fair just gone. That's where I got the 1919kn penny That's it from me, I look forward to meeting all of you and some wonderful pictures of coins I can't afford! Matt

Strange colour - you'd expect a KN to have the characteristic red colour. That one looks like my 19H, except mine has virtually no hair detail, the die was so worn! 1919H penny obv:rev.jpg Nice! Is it ever the case where the London mint supplied planchets to the either Heaton or Norton or is this just true the other way round?

Yes. I have about 3 or 4 collected from change in the late 60s, but I'd like one minimum EF. Ok - the common varieties of 1861 - 1863 are quite cheap in fairly high grade, or 1889 - 1893 are very affordable in GEF or better, with lustre. 1876H and 1882H are both readily available. And thanks for the advice, Peck, I'll keep those in mind while I'm searching for bun pennies!

Just found that 18kn I was talking about, it didn't sell, the seller just relisted it.. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1918KN-PENNY-BMC-2254-A-UNC-A-TRACE-OF-LUSTRE-/171254482636?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item27df9006cc £900, however..

Haha, well I'm still new to the game and my heart is still with pennies at the moment. To be honest though, and I can't explain why, I can see me moving onto farthings instead of half pennies. I think the ship reverse really puts me off, although I do like the half pennies further down the line when Brittania appears. To your previous comment, Peck, I'm definitely looking for a VF or VF+ of the 26me and out of the 50's pennies, the only one I'd look to change is my 1950 as it looks as if it has been dipped in the past, although retoning now. I'm probably going to hold out on variations for now until I hit Victoria. I'm seriously looking forward to it though because of the all variations involved and I'm also smitten with the 1860 reverse . I might live on the edge and skip the 1893-1900 range for a while so I can get myself a few bun pennies, which I've been highly anticipating. Any suggestions on a bun penny that's a particularly good date without breaking the bank? I'd like an H variety of some sort but they seem to go for a lot...

Nice work. A well timed auction I must say!

Thanks Peck I also think I'm in the same ball park as you right now, I'll be trying to get my hands on the 1922 w/27 rev. however I won't be aquiring it anytime soon (while I have to buy luxuries like food and heating)! No - I meant the line is just below that particular one! I'll only get one through an immense amount of luck, I certainly couldn't afford one. As for post 1887-bronze, I would like to upgrade my 1926ME from VF+, and get a decent (e.g. EF) KN which means 1918, they being much more common. Apart from that, I'm more or less there now. I see! To be honest with you Peck, the 1922/27 is one of my least favourite variations on some of the better types out there so I'm happy to wait for this one I'm yet to obtain the 1926me, I recently just bought the original effigy so happy to wait while I enjoy this one! I have seen more and more recently that the 18KNs are popping up, and they seem to be getting better and better in grade. I think theres one going on Ebay which has some eye appeal and was around the £500 mark. I just tried to find the link for it but it seems someone may have already bought it..

Thanks Peck I also think I'm in the same ball park as you right now, I'll be trying to get my hands on the 1922 w/27 rev. however I won't be aquiring it anytime soon (while I have to buy luxuries like food and heating)!

Morning all and thanks for the kind and welcoming words! It's great to see so many enthusiastic collectors all in one place, I'm not sure what the areas are like when everyone else is but I find that coin fairs and dealers near me are few and far between so it's good to get to actually talk to some hardcore numismatists! I'ts been, so far, a tough learning curve but it's one I am thoroughly enjoying. I must point out that I am beholden to a few people here, as I'm sure many others are, including Tony Clayton for his website and also Chris Perkins (who I have recently discovered is behind the Rotographic prints). And also Red Riley, as I understand the former of my 2 books was compiled by him. It's not often you get to give credit where it's due so I won't miss the opportunity. When I get a chance I'll take some pics of some of my pennies and load them up for perusal. Thanks again and great to meet you all!

Lot 386.. Isn't the 1953 beaded/toothed believed to be unique?

You mean cleaned and then slabbed by PCGS But still, cleaned or not I wouldn't be at work tomorrow.

Some people get all the luck.. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/couple-finds-10million-in-gold-coins-while-walking-their-dog-9153126.html

Sacrilege!

It begs belief really.. if it's not loose inside the insert (which like you say is just poor quality control) then it's common sense to position any coin upright in a slab!

I've heard CBT can be very helpful Coin Buying Therapy that is! Touché that man.

:D Hmmm... I definitely think that's a 'Solar Flare' Anne shilling..

I'll get my coat..

I was thinking possibly the same explanation but wouldn't there be significant discolouring of the coin if you were to leave it in long enough for it to dissolve that much?

By the way OP, I enjoyed your username...made me chuckle

Looks like a abnormally thin planchet going from the second picture, this would explain the coin still showing detail but with the appearance of a particularly weak strike. By 1937 the designs on both ob. and re. and the striking processes are pretty much up to spec, so I would guess this away at just being a planchet at the time of mint.

Very good point indeed. Check back with RM for any discrepancy..