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Ok Thanks for your help guys.

As discussed in another thread ( http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/8701-shilling-grading/ ) I have a small collection of mainly British coins that I want to sell and would appreciate views on its approx valuation so that I don't get ripped off. The largest part of it consists of a collection of the British Halfpennies, Pennies, Shillings, Sixpence, Florins & Half Crowns from c.1910 - 1970 that were taken out of circulation from the 1940s on and kept in stiff card collection folders like this one; In addition there are also some coins in the following categories; Commemorative Issues Misc other separate UK Medals - tatty Tokens Misc Other - foreign etc I will detail each category in a separate thread to avoid confusion and cross talk.

I would say it was more like Heads - F and Tails - EF.

Florins yes. Half Crown? You can make out hair strands when you have it in hand and the obverse is crisp. When compared to the examples on http://wybrit.com/info/Grading.html it is better than their 1917 Farthing, F and, imo, comparable to their 1917 Sixpence, VF (heads slightly worse, tails slightly better)

And here they are

Here it is

Sorry, they are more like F.

Thanks Tom & Coppers.

I have an 1863 US Civil War Flag of our Union DIX Token. It spells the word Spot as "Spoot" which seems to be advertised on ebay as unusual; see http://www.ebay.com/itm/CIVIL-WAR-TOKEN-THE-FLAG-OF-OUR-UNION-DIX-with-SPOOT-ERROR-1863-/221197785616 Can anyone confirm whether this really is unusual or did all the 1863 Tokens have that spelling? Thanks

Alas, yes sorry no 1933 Penny so the list should be Halfpennies 1902-25, 1925-67 Pennies 1902-22, 1926-32, 1934-40, 1944-49, 1951, 1961-66 Shillings 1911, 1914-17, 1920-66, 1968-71 Sixpence 1914, 1918, 1920-67 Florins 1914, 1919-33, 1935-51, 1953-62 Half Crowns 1920-51, 1953-67 The Halfcrowns are (as afar as my newbie grading skills allow me!) prob Poor up to 1927 and then miraculously switch to VF/EF from 1928 and increase up to aUnc.

British Coins kept in Western Publishing Company Inc "Great Britain Coin" Folder Series Halfpennies 1902-25, 1925-67 Pennies 1902-22, 1926-40, 1944-49, 1951, 1961-66 Shillings 1911, 1914-17, 1920-66, 1968-71 Sixpence 1914, 1918, 1920-67 Florins 1914, 1919-33, 1935-51, 1953-62 Half Crowns 1920-51, 1953-67 As you would expect the earlier ones are more worn and the newer closest to Unc. It has both English and Scottish versions and also some doubles for some years. If anyone wants piccys or info about specific ones I can post these.

I have a set of c.1910 to the 1960s British coins that were collected from the 1940s and on and have been kept in Collectors folders. The oldest are fairly worn whereas the newest are almost unblemished. From grading guides like http://coins.about.com/od/coingrading/qt/coin_grading101.htm I think they lie imbetween "Good G-4" and "Very Choice About Uncirculated AU-58" but am not at all sure so would appreciate checking my interpretation of the grades with others that are more experienced. I have attached a piccy of 3 shillings dated 1914, 1940 and 1965. My interpretation of their grades is:- 1914 - Between Good and Very Good (as writing is merging into edge but most of detail is still visible) 1940 - Extremely Fine (no major wear but has lost its lustre with a few minor scuffs) 1965 - Very Choice About Uncirculated (still has its shine and with almost no wear) Is this grading about right or am I way off the mark? Thanks

Thanks Paulus & Peckris. Will start a new thread with details fo my collection to see what estimates we can come up with.

I feel a headache coming on! To cut to the chase I want to sell my coins without getting ripped off so want to have a fair idea of their catalogue values. This would be easy if there wasn't so much variation in value between conditions! Is there an easy way I can do this? If I started a thread and went through the collection chunk by chunk would I get good advice here?

In terms of valuations do people pay imbetween prices, i.e. if a coin is worth £10 VF and £20 EF, would a gVF coin exchange hands for £15?

Would it be correct to say that it is the detail that is most important and not the colouration? The following page has a supposedly EF 1886 Halfpenny and it looks pretty grotty to me colour-wise but admittedly has sharp detail. http://wybrit.com/info/Grading.html

Thanks. Here is a piccy of their Heads sides The 1914 Head side is a bit better than its Tail side, whereas the 1940 one is worse imo.

Thanks Tom. Yes it does seem to be an F 209/414a. I think they seem to sell for up to $40 but the prices and condition seem widely varying. In colouring and definition mine is like this one:- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Civil-War-token-1863-Flag-of-our-union-Dix-Shoot-Him-On-the-Spoot-Error-/111299546267 but someone seems to have made it into a necklace/keyfob and put a small hole in the top like this one:- http://www.ebay.com/itm/CIVIL-WAR-TOKEN-THE-FLAG-OF-OUR-UNION-DIX-with-SPOOT-ERROR-1863-/221197785616 How much do you think this would reduce its value?

Thanks Scottishmoney. Looking at the FAQs on that site it seems to give guidance to buyers but not to sellers? How do I ensure I get a fair value (I know nothing about Civil War tokens) and actually get paid?

Hi, I have an old coin that looks similar to George III Half-guineas I can see on the web. If anyone can ID it and give an idea of its value it would be much appreciated. Thanks

Thanks Coppers & Scottishmoney. I actually want to sell it. I guess there is much more interest in these tokens in the US than in blighty. Would it make much difference if I sold it through the CWTS auctions as opposed to ebay or similar?

Not at all. I don't assume anything, it is just there is not a sign of any silver anywhere. On the parts that have been rubbed a lot, i.e. the raised parts, it is a goldish colour and on the sunken parts where dirt gathers it is black. The exception is the edge which when rubbed seems to become more gold and leaves dirty smears on paper. It is a goldish metal covered in a black substance not vice versa. Whether it is gold or bronze or brass or copper is another matter..

btw the edge of the coin is blackened like half of the faces. I just rubbed the edge on a piece of plain paper and it left black/brown marks on the paper. In other words the coin has not been cleaned (perhaps ever) and has gunk on it. The remaining raised edges show as gold and the lowered areas as black.

Thanks all. Looking at the piccys on the net it does seem to be a Geo III Shilling of some sort, not a (half) guinea. This is based on the observation (which might not be correct) that the Shilling is the only George III coin to have "GEOR III DG" written below/left of the head whereas all the other coins seems to have "GEORGIUS III" instead. The reverse side also matches. The counterfeiting is interesting in itself; Why was it so prevalent in Georgian times and not before or after? Having said this I am confused by the comment that the "silver wash has come off revealing the base metal". It seems as if there were both silver and gold Geo III shillings so why could it not be one of the gold ones which needs cleaning? For examples see:- http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/george-iii-pattern-shilling-3813057-details.aspx?intObjectID=3813057 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GREAT_BRITAIN,_GEORGE_III,_1819_-SHILLING_b_-_Flickr_-_woody1778a.jpg http://24carat.co.uk/frame.php?url=1819shillingnewcoinage.html