PWA 1967

Thankyou, I bought that as only got asked for one off a new collector a couple of weeks ago and as I told him at the time you dont see them often.

Yes we will disagree, i was happy to post it you free of charge and you were happy to receive it, perfect 👍.

Yes i remember the coin Terry ,its only an opinion and that one i have seen in hand and was cleaned as i said when i posted it you, just the same as the one posted yesterday was.

Yes , plenty cleaned pennies are sold everyday.Just depends on what the buyer / seller thinks and will tolerate. some are obviously worse than others.The one pictured you obviously considered to be ok when you bought and received it and just giving my own opinion.

Thats just been cleaned as can be seen under the arm and to the right of the trident, with all the lines confirming it.

Will be online soon with Sovereign Rarities if you google it and a collection of rare pennies 👍.

Coin News ,think you know what i meant 😃

Yes the 9 or 10 pennies are all pictured on a full page in Coin news.

The Sale is not online yet and just in this months Coin monthly.

I notice the 1954 Penny is for Auction with Sovereign Rarities 19Th November £90-120,000. Also a Silver proof Penny 1860 ,struck on a Heavy flan and another 8 or so ,all of which are rare.

The 1896 Very wide date is Rare ,i have only seen or know of about 10 looking for them over the last 7/8 years. Gouby BP1896Ad , 11-5 Date width ,although Michael has put scarce in his book due to not doing another book and knowing how many will turn up in the future. There are 4 date widths for 1896 ( a,b,c&d) this being the widest. Keep it safe 👍

The book (Binder) is called "The british Bronze penny 1860-1901" and was printed in 2009 but sold out now.Although if you do find find one some have extra pages which were added in 2020.They are hard to find and unless your lucky not cheap ,even more so with the update (extra pages) but worth looking for especially for varieties and date widths which a lot are not recorded in any other book.Date widths for the early years are not included though as it says in the book to numerous to list them all.

The 1890 is a known variety and in the Gouby book BP1890Aa ( Scarce) , 14 Teeth with the 90 entered lower and not in alignment.

That’s not B reverse , it’s unrecorded.

NGC MS64 RB ,UNC with good lustre. Link to the NGC scans which always make bronze coins look darker ,although if for any reason your not happy please return for a full refund. https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/6134663-011/64/ £600 posted Special Delivery to the UK ,PP or BT.

The main reason is and may be wrong is that they don’t know them , although will do but an extra charge.Problem with the only two big graders is they have done over 150 million coins worldwide of just about every denomination known and nobody knows everything about them all.I used to send quite a few to ngc some I had the Freeman number on but only occasionally as not cost effective intending to sell them in the near future and only had varieties done in high grade.

It means altered surface / cleaned , which can mean a number of things but in the case of the penny I have it’s been done with a grease or oil in my opinion.

Wiped with a cloth with 3 in 1 oil or grease on.

Sorry to jump on your post ,however i have a 1865/3 for sale. Its been WIPED although R13 and think the price is fair. Gouby BP1865Be £40 posted Tracked Delivery to the UK and can message clear pictures of the overdate as to big to download.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266978285026?_nkw=penny+coin&itmmeta=01J6ZD0QHG63NVNZYBB3B2Y19B&hash=item3e292555e2:g:g5kAAOSwmH9m2K8F&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKmOOXhDfJShZ9k0rmGvI5hL4%2BUm9bpbNymp%2BBQnv2NskT24AngdvxxhL%2FehlD9wnlssFVcPLWBd%2BBd8E65rryXVT5%2BTBetWyGOygdiIVK9Lwht469lB9D6HHXPMH0tTW8sekZSWX0dHKcQZOq6Ed8tsEB2SNl1Buwc7Uf14PTkgQuvk4hGL1wvstNZF0pmY1jRmcyIuvWxg6FG10Yxix09XNglgQSAF4NnGv%2BofJHQVATEgeI%2B%2BZY3wa7G7n%2BnST0dUCHxrxIBXdMUoEohG7PtK|tkp%3ABk9SR-r4gu23ZA This seller wants kicking off eBay he annoys me that much i wish i could meet him to tell him 😀.

Yes ,i believe Ab is rare ,Ba scarce and Aa ,Bb both common ,is that correct Gary as just what i was told this morning ?

Yes although the two different obverse dies are well known and two different date widths that give four different die combination varieties instead of two ?.

It could of been anyone Bob i guess ,as far as i can see its just a date width variety and probably more collectors made aware of it with the benefit of the internet ?.

Thought i should put my example on this thread ,talking to Michael Gouby he is not sure he has owned one.