PWA 1967

A newly attributed by Michael Gouby 1898 11 teeth wide date BP1898Ab who says " Scarce to Rare as very few have been discovered ". Its in a CGS slab graded 70 A / UNC UIN 42212 although they have put a price of a standard one £40. I wont be selling it for that and thought i would put it on here first before the Facebook groups and if anyone interested over the next couple of days happy to mail pictures if you PM me. £90 Posted Special Delivery. This is the last one i have seen sell at LCA. http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&auc=152&searchlot=2462&searchtype=2 Pete.

I agree although i dont suppose any theory will be conclusive.It is almost perfectly round aswell like the 1897 that has different opinions although in a different area .I have looked at others closely as i did initially think it was part of the N but not seen anything that would confirm it on another.

I thought that originally Rob ,however on this one that is a high grade even under a microscope there was no trace of the upright.

Yes forget buying the intercept as IMO they are not worth the extra as the quadrums are fine.If you phone Andy up (coin gallery) you can buy them singly ,however the prices for 5 / 10 / 50 are probably cheaper than anywhere else. If some of the coins are low grade or not of much value i prefer the stamp envelopes put inside a paper envelope you can write on ,you can still take them out and look at them without handling and can store loads in one small box for just a few £.

https://www.coingallery.co.uk/coin-capsules-34-c.asp

Believe me Paddy the bigger the garden the bigger the ballache,my daughter has nearly 4 acres they have been mowing and by the time they have done it will need doing again 😂 We are in a flat and can just let the gardener get on with it twice a week 👍

Yes Dave WH Smiths must of charged more as were definately £1.99 from the Royal Mint ,you have done well should you wish to sell it as one sold last night on facebook for £260 👍

They do look different Bob as the one that is circular is a tooth closer to the E and the flaw being in the correct position.

These have now doubled in price during the last few weeks and people now starting to ask for even more ,they have sold as soon as listed on the facebook groups. Crazy considering they were £1.99 from WH Smiths when they were released.

The Auction to view online is on if anyone interested.

Another 1858 F/B now slabbed by CGS. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Queen-Victoria-Penny-1858-No-WW-S3948/353038302858 This has been on a while and as mentioned you dont see them attributed.

Maybe get some of the whitman folders or similar and take out decent ones to fill the folder with a date run. Doing it that way you will get much more than scrap and sell 20/30 coins in one go on ebay. Obviously check the coins first to see if the folders are worth buying 😃

One of my better buys £60 from LCA 1854 DOT. Not purchased this week ,although not put it on before 😃

A newly attributed wide date ,now BP1890Ad.

Although i have had 3 of those in low grade thats by far the best i have seen .HAT OFF 👍

I know he is aware of lots of date widths and varieties he has been told about or found since 2009. How many and which ones he decides to attribute though Terry i have not got a clue 🙂 As far as your question on the value Wayne i have no idea sorry , £25 in that grade maybe ( a guess ) they are scare but not many interested in date widths .Although there would only be one way to find out really and maybe put it on eBay.

Yes.Its now been attributed by Michael Gouby as BP1895Bb. They are much scarcer than the standard one in the top picture 👍

About 5 /6 years ago i was the underbidder on the 1898 wide date in LCA that sold for £150+.Since then i have looked at hundereds if not thousands and a lot scarcer.I have found 4 decent ones (well 3 as Jon on here spotted one for me on facebook over 2 years ago ) so should say bought 4.The one you have i bought in America and Damian sold you on eBay ,another i Let Terry have as again you dont see them so often.I have a spare in a CGS slab graded 70 (just wide date on the slab ,the one Jon spotted) and then the one pictured in an NGC slab.I have had perhaps about 15 others but all really low grade similar to the one that sold for £29 in LCA which is the same one that sold about 15 years previously for £90. The narrow date bisect is also much scarcer than the wider one ,much more than 1/3 IMO and have never seen one better than VG to Fine other than your own. As Ian said to me a few years ago "have you got a thing about these 1898 pennies " which although sad 😃 was when i was quite ill and looking every day. So i have looked at a lot ,however there will be plenty more turn up if someone wants one ,which they probably dont.😃

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=meteovlora&hash=item4b77fcb428%3Ag%3Am~AAAOSwclheOG6o&item=324135597096&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xpenny.TRS0&_nkw=penny&_sacat=0 This clown is not just listing them at daft prices but unfortunately people are buying them.

Sorry if i have confused things Terry. Your top picture is BP1898Ba....New variety. Second picture BP1898B.....As it has always been.

Its a bit coincidental Jerry but was only talking to Michael Gouby yesterday about these 1898 Pennies as a couple of forum members know. The picture of this one (my own ) is not in Gouby and now attributed by Michael as BP1898Ab 11 Teeth wide date. The picture of your 1898 is now attributed by Michael is BP1898Ba 10-75 Teeth Bisect and a slightly different font than just 1898B and not 11 Teeth......Although its not 100% clear on your picture Terry has a really good image that hopefully he will share.

No.Nothing wrong with it ,from the picture it may of had a wash or light clean but the coin is what it is. Remember sometimes coins that were struck in the millions will have part of the dies that become worn and also some parts weakly struck ,this will make the coin appear to have uneven wear. Pete.

I think Jon is right Terry as i used to be looking for them all almost daily. The F/B was not recorded and only quite recently discovered ,so plenty have been sold with the variety not attributed. When the first one sold that was heavily cleaned people maybe were not convinced what it was and sold for £9 LOT 2653 1/9/2013. In the same Auction on the same day 1/9/2013 LOT 2649 sold not attributed. Lots of people ( dont want one) dont look for them or because they are not in a book dont know what to look for. Plenty turn up on ebay though and more common than the other two. http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&searchterm=1858+Penny&searchtype=1 Pete.

A couple from Jack at coopers coins that are both BU in hand.