PWA 1967

Ian brown from the stone roses said "Manchester has everything but a beach ".

1909 F169 The one that went unsold in the last LCA.

Yes by using someone elses account. Put a bid in for £1000 so you know it will be higher ,it will then show the £140 then just retract the bid as entered the wrong amount in error and put in £139 a day or so after.

I dont think the seller had any idea what it was and wasnt intending to deceive. There does not appear to be any shilling just listed at 99p and they have not sold a coin before. On the other subject of sniping it has the benefits rather than leaving a bid a few days before at the highest you want to pay ,on a coin worth a few quid its to easy for the seller to see your maximum bid. I.E. You leave a bid for £140 a couple of days before ( that shows a lot less ) the seller has a look on another account and puts in a shill bid of £139 😟 You see some accounts that have retracted loads of bids and doubt they have made that many mistakes.

Received my second letter today from Border force to confirm a refund which like the other will be paid to me in the next couple of weeks ☺️ Just wish i had known what to do before. Important to keep the envelope and receipt from the purchase if you think its wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEqWh6fl_sA Hat off to him ......... just got on with it.

This forum first of all. Type in the search box top right anything such as storage ,cleaning etc and most questions will of been asked before which should help you 🙂

I think they are just errors with the wrong blanks ,if they were intended i think they would of atleast kept one and recorded it.I have a 1928 with the reverse inverted and as some show die rotation i dont see any reason why they didnt release just the one die and then not tighten it properley ? Just like the jersey penny could of been struck in error with one die not changed. I am only guessing Mike and not any reason as to why its not something else but feel the ones mentioned are just errors.

I thought it seemed a lot being £1500 over estimate ,having now read the second post yes as you say and know its the same coin Peter although the two pictures are completely different 🙂

Well he wouldnt if he was sat with me ,if someone else wants to drag something up and i think they are wrong or out of order ,i will defend the other side. It does not matter to me if its in a pub or on a forum ,i will stand up for myself or defend someone else if i feel they should be backed up. The ones who put there head down or go home tend to be the ones who are two faced and go home to slag them both off . Sometimes its better to say nothing ,but not if the other person continues to go on with themself.

What you on about the demise of CGS has calmed people down . I am having an emotional outburst.😂

If thats the colour Ian as looks a bit odd , i would say the reverse definately MT and the obverse maybe gold 😂or partly MT. The 1934 come in all different shades from black to a very light brown.They will lose the hypo when in circulation or even just being against something else over nearly ninety years. The obv i am 50/50 although it looks a good one as very few on the OBV have much detail to the hair.

Not a problem and sent you the pictures ,i did mention in an earlier post i used to have it.The coin was in a cgs slab (lighter pictures) and i broke it out and sold it Dave Craddock. A forum member has it now 😃

A 1932 MINT TONED ?

Without stating the obvious Mike it will be the same as a 1934 with a different date and sorry i have never had one,coins round 44,45,46 such as 1947 will be much darker. I can send you pictures of a 1932 (i cant download them ) but any 1934 colour is what your looking for. I think after yesterday they are just a few of the same blanks that got mixed in by error. If you want the pictures of 1932 just PM me. Pete.

Daves book also states............The majority of examples for 1935 were darkened at the mint and in a few cases examples are found with a brilliant finish. Again...I dont agree and think that also is an error .

Thinking about it the HYPO i feel it must of been put on the blank before it was struck ,the 1946 pennies were all lustered and fully struck from a mint roll. They were almost black but with a sheen that would of come from the strike IMO.

I will have a guess Mike..........36,743 😊 Joking aside that is an error in the book ,your own coin which has just naturall toning IMO is the same as most.There are exceptions to the rule some years that have MT when shouldnt have ,i had a 1932 that was MT.There are some years that should be MT 1944,45 & 46 that you find have missed the MT and occasionally 1934 ,sometimes partly as well as the full coin. The 1935 though are MOSTLY normal . I believe the HYPO was a liquid wash that the coins went through after striking ?. Why some years have it that shouldnt though i have not got a clue 😊 Infact it would make more sense that the BLANK was washed BEFORE striking and some of those were mixed in with others 😮 Pete.

Yes Paddy the 1919 is a decent strike 🙂

Thats a good one Terry compared with some at least on the REV the breastplate and lower part of the helmet show A lot of them have a weak OBV and can assure you there are much worse than that one. Its also quite common for the top part RHS of the Y in penny to be very weak for some reason.

For what its worth Mike 1911,12,13 both F174 , F177 &14 you should be able to find quite easily with a good strike.The ones much harder are 1915,16,17,18 & 19 ,these are coins from 1911-1920.

Also keeping themselves busy. I have just watched a documentary on Sky arts called Auction which featured them ,nice PR job.

Good afternoon Dave 😂 I only look at the pennies but also feel they edge on the side of caution with some,better to low than to high though .

When i first looked at one i am pretty sure its a 4 as only the plain 4 out of all the digits fits and is the most likely repair with a crosslet one.

Having a quick look Mike LCA have only sold one decent 1915 since 2005 ,so yes to find them in a high grade is difficult. Sure one will turn up , although even the normal 1915 can be hard in UNC with a decent strike .