PWA 1967

Yes Jerry i agree and can remember someone blowing the pictures up when it was for sale and was just wondering if anyone else had any thoughts.Regardless of what die the obverse is i would never spend good money on one as would always be thinking is it or isnt it ....or have i just spent a few quid on a blocked die or Rang. Happy to have a gap for that one

This is the biggest problem imo they are cleaning them not conserving then.... putting in plastic and think its ok

I think from memory a forum member had a similar experience with an 1861 or 62 proof penny ,cant remember exactly what year. Although that was just on the Atlas site i think , not an auction and was able to return it .....there is a thread about it on here. The coins are no doubt not what they look like (either doctored pictures or conserved ) in hand but if you can return anything regardless of the seller atleast the choice is down to yourself. As far as buying one in auction for a few quid without looking at it or someone else on our behalf we only have ourselves to blame.

Does that mean the one with OBV 12 sold at LCA for £1500 was definately not one ? I only ask as someone must of thought it looked right

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Hi Jamie and welcome to the mad house. Remember most of us on here have a coin addiction .....so take your time

Clever pictures and thanks for posting them,just shows the pictures have jumped the price up considerably.

I thought you had just cracked up and wondered what you were on about. Yes the gouby x was a forum member but he has not read this yet

At first i didnt want to post and let anyone know my opinion on an open forum...... which is all it is. However you did ask the question and keen to see what others may think I would put on as a BIN or offer for a month first and just try it as a more specialised penny. A mate of mine put a decent 1911 gouby x on before christmas,good photos and description.It was on for ten days and finished on a sunday night. I felt bad him posting it me as i bought it for £3 You dont want anything daft like that to happen.

Dont thank me mate as you may get more and will let others decide Just giving you my opinion ,however i do try and keep intouch with prices as with some other low grade ones if i know there are more being found i know its time to get rid of mine

In that condition anything over £130 ish in your pocket and you have done well.....IMO More are turning up like most varieties and this just brings the price down. You may be able to ask more to someone who really wants one.....just need to find them and if at auction there are fees One is for sale on ebay that was purchased at LCA in Sept/Dec but been on a few months. Dave craddock sold a couple last year for £100 each (maybe cheap) and although i did not see them or the pictures i would not of thought they were lesser grade. Maybe i am way off as they were selling for £250 ish when i bought mine a couple of years ago although it is better and as i have mentioned more have turned up since then. Terry found a good one recently and they will always command a hefty premium as if its scarce will be even harder to find in a good grade. I was going to say £100 but thought i would make you feel better Good luck.. Pete.

What i mean Zoo is its in the book as 1893/2 not just the coin pictured all of them with the downward bit below , not sure if they are all really a 2. If the coin has more lustre or viewed through a glass you can see more clearly.

Lots can look similar Zoo such as Gouby Ac has made me doubt as weather it really is a 2.

Yes it looks good to me but way overpriced again

That one is RT

No your not seeing things ,what a fantastic find and HAT OFF. Whats the Reverse like ?.

Well lets hope he does read the forum and makes a point of looking at it more often as not doing himself any favours.

Hat off thats a really good one Richard I assume with it just having an estimate of £80 they had just listed it as a 1861 ?

Hat off Will maybe he listened to you or reads the forum. Put some new pictures up and changed the grade on the description as Sword said due to a picture of the ticket

Its nothing to do with the pictures or the listing really I just dont like people selling coins for a grand in an auction and then telling lies to not sell it. I also dont like people who arrange to meet you and sell you something for cash and tell lies again. I also dont like people selling Fakes that have been in there collection forty years but were only made twelve months before. I also dont like someone who sells at shows and knows the values trying to catch someone out by asking £500 more for a coin of not much value. Basiclly i just dont like the seller and people who tell lies

Got you now Sword.....Sorry i am a bit thick

The bar only opens at 5.00 sorry ,but maybe you can call in later and explain it all to us

Believe me he knows what he is doing and has / had dozens of cgs coins although the pictures yes i forgot and he may not be able to access them. The grade though he states in the listing as F although it is not that on the holder it is only VG ,so i am not sure what you mean by quite hard to claim. All of it doesnt matter anyway just one of his normal daft listings and nobody (hopefully)is going to pay that for it

As i doubt the seller will reply i have had a quick look and the cgs picture is much clearer ....... the coin is definately an open 3. I dont know why he didnt use there picture as much better and the same coin graded 10. Now all he has to do is knock £500 off and alter the grade from F to VG

You can put the blame on Terry for that Stuart ,although if it had been the correct thread there would of been twice as many posts