ozjohn

When Australia converted it seemed so much simpler. 10/- = $1, 5/- 50 cent, 2/- = 20 cent,, 1/- = 10 cent. 6d = 5 cent. One new silver coin and 1 & 2 cent bronze coins and the old silver 3d piece, and the bronze penny and halfpenny coins abandoned. Compared with the UK conversion 50p' 20p (horrible little coin introduced later) 1/2, 1 & 2 newpenny bronze coins. Changing to 10/- = $1 preserved the numerical relationship between the coins which made the whole process simpler. I suppose the reason for preserving the GBP was the reason for keeping it but you have to wonder if it was worth all the confusion it caused

Given that circulated 1927 florins and halfcrowns turn up on Ebay it is not beyond the possibility that crowns went the same way. After all they were legal tender.

Another coin I have a 1890 florin, The obverse IMO is gEF/UNC while the reverse is a weak strike. Again opinions sought. How do you come up with an overall grade for a coin like this. It has to be said I like this coin a lot and not considering an up grade. Not sure why the line is through the last two sentences.

You don't get it you've had the referendum. It's time to implement it. Three years is too long to be stuffing around like chooks with their heads off only succeeding to make your country laughing stock. Even your friends in Australia are shaking their heads in disbelief.

Looks like the Brexit party picked up a large amount of the original leave vote. Overall it looks like the result of the original referendum has not changed and still represents a majority to leave .The major change is the fall in the Tory party vote who are presently occupying the government bench. I'm sure this fact will sharpen the focus of those frustrating this process if they want to stay there. I think their only choice, given the intransigence of the EU is a no deal Brexit if the Tory MPs want to keep their jobs. Any reneging on Brexit is political suicide.

Don't worry we have the same problem with the ABC here in Australia. Gender issues, support of the Labor party ( who just lost the general election despite their support for it) , climate change, biased reporting etc. Like you say not to be trusted.

Assuming we are still talking about the original subject of this post. Part of the reverse is reasonably well struck which includes the bottom shield, the Scottish shield and the thistle pointed sceptre. Perhaps uneven thickness of the planchet or a misaligned die.

If you believe the BBC then you will believe anything. The UK does not have a preferential voting system and if the EU election results are extrapolated to the UK first past the post system. For example say the results for a seat were as follows Tory 41% , Labor 40% and Others 19% the Tory candidate would win the seat and the same with the Brexit party if a general election were called. What the BBC is trying is to post the results in a way that does not represent your voting system to further its own agenda. I amazes me that the Poms have so little knowledge of their voting system. I suppose it goes hand in hand with the lack of turnout at elections. The result represents an indorsement to leave EU. See my above post.

THE UK HAS HAD THE REFERENDUM THAT VOTED TO LEAVE 52% to leave 48% to stay. If that was the result of a general election no one would question the result as it would deliver a majority of seats to the party who achieved this majority. What part of democracy don't the remainders understand? Was leaving the EU ever going to be easy? No! The EU were always going to oppose Brexit. Not because they like the UK but as it threatens the stability of the EU. It's about time the UK gained a set of balls and told the EU how it's going to be. If this means a no deal exit so be it. The time for procrastination is over.

Well put.

Just for the record Australia minted 1937 and 1937 crowns which proved unpopular as they wore holes in people's pockets so the story goes.

In your system first past the post is the winner. That's what the pollies will be taking notice off. You can cut and carve it as much as you like but that's what it boils down to.

What vote, both the Tories and Labor lost out big time as both parties ignored the results of the original referendum. It seems to come down the Brexit party representing the leavers and the Lib/Democrats the remainders. looking from Australia it can only be interpreted as a resounding result for the leavers and will increase the pressure on the Tory remainders who will be slaughtered at the next general election if they ignore the message the electorate is sending. I can tell you one thing when it comes to a choice for a polly, principle or being reelected they will chose the latter every time. As for people who cannot be bothered to vote. That's their problem. Either get your butts to the polling station or miss out. If you cannot do that you can only blame yourselves. The ability of the Poms to not vote and then complain about the result beggars belief. If they had voted at the original referendum perhaps there would have been a different result, who knows but that's irrelevant, they should have voted.

The silence is deafening after the EU election results where the Brexit party achieved stunning results A second referendum without having a second referendum? In any case a result that the Tories & Labor ignore at their peril.

Child poverty? I think Australia is similar to the UK in this regard. Much is said about it. However when parents stop spending money on smoking, booze, gambling , drugs etc. and start to look after their children would be a good start in combatting it. Much of it is child neglect by parents. Not sure what this has to do with Brexit.

With respect to the EU elections the Tories might start taking notice of the people they "serve". The people voted for out at the referendum so another one of those is unnecessary in any case on the EU results would only produce the same result and would only provide ammunition for Stoddard's obsession for Scottish independence. As for the Ireland border this is surely a matter of the respective governments not the EU and is more motivated by the Irish Republic's territorial ambitions for the unification of Ireland than any regard for the peace agreements. which would have probably happened much earlier if the Irish government had supported them earlier rather than letting the issues fester to support their ambitions for a united Ireland.

Surely the condition the coin leaves the mint defines the grade. It's too easy to just assume a weakly struck coin has been circulated. A lazy approach. Each coin should be appraised on its merits and any defects noted. This is the strength of the Shelden system where MS 60 defines the coin as UNC and higher grades awarded on lack of bag marks, lustre etc. Not that the TPGs are consistent in their grading which is their weakness.

I'm no expert on Canadian silver dollars but I would think the bullion price plus a premium would be a significant part of the price.. I do remember seeing a very nice 1930s George V silver dollar being sold for about $AU 50. As an aside Colonial Coins & Medals, Brisbane had some slabbed Canadian gold ten dollar coins.

I don't know about Canadian silver dollars in the UK but I've managed to buy a few over the years here in Australia.

Nice coin. You might like to look for an Australian 1937 crown which is sterling silver. Of course Canadian silver dollars are always desirable coins.

Corbyn seems to be pursuing policies even more left of Labor in Australia who were defeated at last Saturday's general election even after all of the polls predicting their victory. I suspect the same will happen in the UK if the Tories deliver Brexit (renegotiated - unlikely given the EU's position) or a hard exit. I suspect the Tory party will change their tune on this issue when facing a electoral wipeout with the rise of the Brexit Party under Farage.

Sorry about the picture quality but it was scanned at high resolution.

PS the original scan was 5,25 MB limited to 0.375 MB for the post. Sorry I got the max upload wrong by several orders of magnitude, However the one I posted is close to the limit of 0.49 MB and the same comment regarding upload limit still applies,

Rob, The higher resolution scan for your consideration. This is close to 400 MB with a limit of 500m MB , If you want better perhaps the 500 MB limit needs to be increased. Ozjohn

This coin is another one I have trouble distinguishing between wear and weak strike. A 1817 bullhead halfcrown. I took a good look at the grading examples in the Rotographic guide to grading coins book and came to the conclusion that my coin is much better that the VF example given in the book.. On the obverse of my coin the top middle laurel leaf has no veins with further weakness in the rim of the ear. An area above the laurel crown's upper middle leaf seems lower than the leaf and as a result not fully struck. However the King's cheeks and the rest of the face seem free of wear. In general cheeks and eyebrows show the first signs of early wear. On the reverse further weakness close to the buckle of the garter and some of the roses on the rim of the garter are weakly struck while others are fully struck. Weakness is also apparent on the Hanover shield. If this is wear I would grade the coin as gVF+/ aEF and for a weak strike I would grade it EF. My dilemma is. Do I upgrade or live with the coin I have as collecting is always a question of prioritizing and I may be better keeping this coin and investing in a coin that I do not have yet? All comments observations etc. are appreciated.