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The lower GBP has made coins sourced from the UK cheaper at present however the attendant inflation that will come from the drop in the GBP's value will probably increase coin values over time. Maybe some inflation not such a bad thing given the risk of deflation at this time. As to Brexit I applaud the UK for making such a decision as the FU has morphed from a free trade agreement into a monster that has one aim to destroy economies by foisting a unrealistic currency on its members, uncontrolled migration as well as usurping the laws of its member states. Much has been made of the UK being locked out of trade with the EU because of tariffs. The truth is the change in the GBP's value will more than compensate for that eventuality. As for Scotland if they want to go I think they have more to lose by taking this action. They also risk having a controlled border with the rest of the UK if they join the EU given they will have to become part of the Schengen as part of the conditions of joining the EU as immigration was a major issue during the Brexit debate. I cannot see the UK leaving the back door open after voting to close off uncontrolled immigration .Of course they will have to join the Euro and tolerate the EU interfering with their legal system in addition to the question of the viability of Scotland surviving as an independent state which sunk the earlier referendum still remains

Very nice even if I'm not really a shilling man.

Gentlemen, Gentlemen careful or you will be sent to the negative thread naughty step.

Nice coin they're finally minting them correctly just before the design change.

Sword, You are right about the toning on Edward coins. Here's my 1902 HC not to the same extent as yours but a similar effect. I've never noticed it before

See above post.

Nordle11, Thank you for your support. All I can say unless this forum can remain free and frank for its members to express their opinions regarding coin issues then it might as well close. Thankfully I think it is bigger than that and will continue for a long time into the future.

I'm impressed.

You tell that to the large number of CGS customers who are fed up with the high handed way they have treated their clients. Time will tell but IMO they will be out of business as a TPG if they maintain their business model. When I first heard of CGS I thought this is good someone different from the US domination of the TPG market but I plus many of their customers have been disappointed. If you do not like in this thread don't read it. The whole point of a forum such as this to discuss these issues. If you think CGS are such a wonderful organization then start a thread to praise their activities. Not sure on the support you will get but I will support to the end your right to do so.

If you don't like an alternative view don't read it! Judging by the amount of posts on this matter I would think there are more dissatisfied customers of CGS than satisfied ones. Are you connected in some way to CGS as you seem to be quick to defend them?

Take your point that pictures can be deceptive Here's a proof 1911 HC (ungraded) I have which in life is shiny with little toning. Still not impress with CGS however.

This one won CGS 75 in the CGS lottery. It's dated 1911 and similar in condition to the one submitted by Nonmortuus which won CGS 65! Pick a figure and declare all care but no responsibility. My advice forget CGS and if you need a TPG go to the US ones PGS etc.

You make CGS sound like a lottery not a serious TPG which is just about right.

How the 1912 HC achieves a higher grade than the 1919 HC beats me. Too many inconsistencies to comment on them all I never had any coins graded by CGS before the GBP 400 ripoff and even more unlikely to use their services now. However I hold some CGS in my collection but I try to buy the coin rather than what CGS says about it. Also I think the cost of using CGS is tending to push up prices as people who have coins graded to sell them will try to recover their costs in submitting coins to CGS.

This may help https://goldsovereigns.co.uk/fakes.html plenty of info here on fake sovereigns.

Hi Paulus the seller was starling 69. Assuming that's you thanks for the coin it was a reasonable price and a nice grade. I already had one from the short 1911 set I have. This one is for the date run I am trying to collect.

Nice Azda jubilee florins are a very difficult series to collect. Plenty of double florins in the higher grades however the florins are conspicuous by their absence.

Previously you could look the coin up on the old CGS site via its UIN serial # and see the photo CGS took plus their description of the coin thus confirming it has been graded by CGS. Which was one of the useful things CGS used to do in order to support their product now as far as I am aware a service no longer provided.

Also the horse's tail seems to be too far from the rim and the dragon's claws seem to be just claws whereas in the genuine article there are pads on the feet more like a cat rather than a lizard.

Snap. I just received this one today CGS 85 seems they did not reject this one on account of the toning. Pity I cannot check it on London Coins Web site without paying.

EF seems a fair grading for this coin. It shows the usual weak strike in the center of the shield and slight wear on the edge of the drapes with the LHS showing more. Slight wear to the ear and hair on the obverse.

http://wybrit.com/Museum/Florin%20Catalogue_6.htm. Found this site that may be of some use as it shows a selection of George V florins along with their grading according to the author. The 1914 florin shown in Nick's post is by far the best example of this series I have seen and must have been struck early in the die's life.

What is the condition of the milling? The fields of the coin seem to have a fair amount of lustre and the lower lions, harp , and RH lion seem pretty good. The king's head is deeply struck hence the ghosting on the reverse. However on the obverse the ear and beard are weak but the eyebrow seems to be struck which along with the ear is one of the first areas to wear. I think the flattening on the ear and beard are mostly due to a weak strike.

Good luck the mint quality of the florins seems worse than the halfcrown. Just looking at one of my 1912 florins in light of your post and decided it was a little worse than yours flatter ear but the reverse is about the same as yours. One thing that struck me (excuse the pun) was the milling which is almost pristine as is the edge of the milling where it meets the struck faces of the obverse and reverse of the coin which indicates to me that the main problem with higher grades of this series of florins is the strike quality. I have seen plenty of CGS 75 examples of these coins with the lions at 12 o' clock almost non existent flat ear lobes etc. Apart from the 1911 proof the strike quality was poor until 1924 with a bit of an improvement for the 1921 issues.

Many of the 1937/38 crowns appear to have had some signs of circulation in my opinion. No one chucks a relatively high value coin in the back of a draw for prosperity in the middle of a depression! One that hit Australia particularly hard. A friend of mine who's father was a SP bookie asked me to look at a load Australian silver coins this hoard included crowns, shillings, sixpence and three pence some Unc but mostly circulated.