Colin G.

Agreed, I am also struggling to find any reference to an 1839 proof quarter farthing.......

Based on my own experiences with US major auction houses I would suggest not Bob I had also clocked the mule....or toothed border farthing if correctly described I did mean to have a look on the forum to see if it was the same coin.

Thanks for all the info folks...really appreciated, I believe all dodgy code has now been removed...anyone fancy a second check? I suppose it may take a while for cached versions to catch up but fingers crossed

There is a micro variety of 1860 where the lower stop appears to be missing (almost definitely due to die fill), but it is more of a curiosity than a variety that will add any premium. Regarding the others, I can only see the images of the 1860 farthing. Advice I would give about these types of varieties, is that many things can "appear" to exist, I have several coins that I have noted as probable varieties or possible varieties, some of which look very convincing but it is imperative that they need to be confirmed with a very high degree of certainty from a high grade example before I get too interested in them....and even then it does not necessarily mean they will attract a premium...there are only a few of us micro collectors about

I also saw these, that is a definite flooding of the market, 5 clear varieties of 1890 farthing, so you may be lucky and get some of each...but then you still have to find enough farthing micro variety collectors to sell them to... cherry pick from the others and slab a select few...but even then a lot of hard work for not a lot of reward.....after hard consideration and Dave's financial breakdown of it all I have come to the conclusion that I am out of the running

The first time I have "tried" to use their online bidding software....what a nightmare Is it just me or is this the single most useless piece of online bidding software around....I notice there are not many internet bids....I wonder why!!! Described as powerful and sophisticated and operated by a market leader.........oh dear

And what a good choice that would be!!

Did you make a note of any prices? I had bids on a few things, mostly farthings. There were some nice ones in the sale. Ahh so you were one of my competitors!! Quite possibly. Were you there, and which pennies caught your eye? I was there...but it was Rob's post I was responding to, I had my focus planted firmly on the farthings

Did you make a note of any prices? I had bids on a few things, mostly farthings. There were some nice ones in the sale. Ahh so you were one of my competitors!!

Yes, I had the same experience. I am assuming/hoping they will get all that fixed in the days to come. I think this is a result of the new website, I have phoned, very quick and helpful as usual...all sorted!!

Must've used quite a lot of pressure to achieve this effect, hence being out of shape, obviously. Oh well, you live and learn, and it didn't cost a fortune, thankfully. It is surprising how clearly the incuse effect is, you would instinctively expect the legend to be squashed under such pressure.

Rob I think the farthings may be able to shed some light, I am certainly aware of a version of the farthing that has a broken A, which is very similar to a flaw found on an 1843 farthing...it may be purely co-incidence, or it could be the same die being re-utilised. I have not seen a copy in hand though to see whether there is any evidence of an overdate, or to try and match any other features. Bizarrely one of the lots I have bought from the DNW sale, is an example of this type...so I will have a copy in hand fairly shortly!!

Charles I Richmond farthing tokens - Should read CARO DG MAG BRI(T) and on the Reverse FRA ET HIB REX Many varieties with different privy marks that are located above the crown on the Obverse...and a lot of contemporary counterfeits

That looks to be post mint damage created by squeezing one coin against another so that it creates an impression of one on another

I paid high for one which I really wanted, got one for mid estimate and couldn't refuse the other at £40 below lowest estimate...hopefully it was worth a gamble!!

There's not a bag of them but about 25 of them were struck (forged) during that period in the 70's/80's by the same person(s)....who, I am told, is alledgedly still around. Do you know why he did not make more? If he could make such good fakes in the 70's / 80's, then I dread to think what will happen in 50 years time. Nothing given he should be pushing up the daisies I didn't mean him, but what forgers in gerneral can do in the future. What worry me is that one day, forgeries will be so good that they can no longer be distinguished from the real thing by visual inspection or weight. Then will all rare coins have to be sold in "slabs" after expensive analysis have been done in labs? Scary! As Rob has said that is where provenance is going to play a major part in putting minds at rest on un-slabbed coins.

I got a couple as well .... ...but did not intend to spend today oh well

Chris I use Siteground, not the cheapest but have always been very good on the support side of things. I should be able to get you 12 months cheap which will also get me a free month of hosting if you are interested. Have a look and let me know if you are interested

It is more obvious when you line the colon up with Britannia's drapery, one would appear to line up with the step back of the drapery and the other hits the furthest projection of the knee drapery...as for the number of combinations........I am a farthing man...sorry

I have to admit the few bits I have sold have either gone through London Coins or DNW. I know with London Coins I have always found dealings face to face to be the better option but if it is a sizeable collection, one would hope they would be very enthusiastic. I can't fault my dealings with DNW as both a buyer and a seller, always been very pleased with the service. I have never yet dealt with Baldwins or Spinks because DNW responded to my first enquiry (which was sent to all 3) politely and quickly and therefore as a result I would now approach them first for any future sales. There are also a few collectors/dealers on here who may be interested if you want to save some fees. Do you have a list compiled and prices in mind

Have you read about the ghost of Matthew Boulton on it?

I couldn't resist putting this one up http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-Luster-UNC-MS-or-PROOF-1806-George-III-GHOST-Farthing-P-1397-S-3782-KM-661-/261225169125?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3cd23bc0e5

The example that I sold and the slight upgrade sitting in my collection are both shown in the thread below. http://www.predecimal.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7794&st=0&p=82574&hl=+1840%20+farthing&fromsearch=1entry82574

I am with Peter here, not a very well known variety, but gets a premium from us micro variety collectors. For info I recently sold an example approaching EF for £140

I do find it quite amusing that we can't even get a consensus on how to build a poll on a forum...what hope do we ever have of agreeing on grades, it does explain a lot