Colin G.

I have a feeling this may be similar to the bundle of undated 20p's thread

This occurs across several dates, I prefer the description unbarred A's because on a vast majority hints of cross bars can be seen. I will not classify them unless there is indisputable evidence that the bar is not just weak.

True ...but that could just be a recut of the 4 itself.

Be interesting to see better images, but my instincts would be to say die flaw. The 4 should continue up to the same height as the 7, which would take up the space where the underlying 1 would be, which would just leave the serif to the left. Would definitely be interested in better photos though

Just be careful because occasionally they will try and charge a 20% import duty, I always get the persons shipping where possible to add the customs code for the 5% duty.

It is surprising how quick a coin tones down in natural sunlight, although I assume this is still a chemical reaction. Take a new sparkly modern penny or two pence and leave it on a window cill for a few weeks it will soon take on a dull toned appearance. Works quite well on harshly cleaned bronze if you want to get some form of tone back over a coin, although the effects can vary.

You often find that the underlying digit/letter may only be partially visible, so I wouldn't read too much into the fact that you can not see the top or bottom of the 6

Looks to curved to be a 2 in my opinion, the 2 has a straight back once halfway down the length of the digit. I agree with Rob, more likely to be a rotated 6. How does the curve of the 6 compare when overlaid?

Welcome to the forum, would love to see some images of the farthing. The sale was at Christies 23rd October 1984 - Lot 174 was the 1877 farthing

What is unusual is that it has been lit from the bottom when photographed, this can make a substantial difference in appearance and will no doubt be responsible for the confusion over incuse or raised effects, and probably the size of the lion's heads.

I think I read somewhere it was about £250 worth of pennies

What happened with the 1853 farthings!! The most common copper date and yet priced higher than some of the tougher dates....anyone want to buy some really cheap 1853 farthings Interesting though..thanks for sharing

Give you £8.88 for it

It is surprising how much unexpected information you can gather from such exercises, it is just the shear volume of study that makes this difficult..even when choosing a date with limited numbers it can be exhaustively demanding.

In my opinion both are standard letters, they appear thinner because of the metal displacement when recut, it is very common to see this with underlying letters. I don't see how you are determining that the N's are smaller in size?

I think this is one of a series produced as replicas...there is an eBay seller that is always selling this style of coin, which are obvious fakes to the experienced collector, but good enough to fool someone who may be unsuspecting. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GEORGE-I-1720-Farthing-Oxford-Royal-Mint-Restrike-RARE-Antqiue-Uk-Coin-/252743582435?hash=item3ad8b102e3:g:DEQAAOSw5cNYXZ6B

The website is currently being changed, this would be the new classification. On the old system it would be a 1A

As previously indicated it looks to be the "normal" variety Obverse 3 Reverse B

That is just an impractical approach...how could the leave campaign ever truthfully say what the scenario would look like after leaving if: The parliament has an ability to potentially amend and debate the process once underway The leave campaign are not the Government and therefore can not say what the ruling Government would do in the event of a vote to leave. The Government's stance was to remain, so how can they provide a truthful argument for leaving? Anyone who expects all politicians...or in fact people to always tell the truth are naive. It will never happen. This would mean the argument for leaving would be "we are leaving but we don't know what it will entail, who will administer it or how it is being carried out or what the end result would be"......I am sure that would have been a hard sell You have to rely on your instincts in these situations and try and sift through the dross to get to real information

Nail...head....hit

in fairness I am sure we could fill one

I am not the chattiest of people either, I will gladly chat to people once I get to know them, but just tend to find that I have a weird approach to collecting. I don't often go out with the intention of purchasing from a list of items. I just browse and then purchase anything that I think looks attractive or seems good buy. I often find I am buying things I may already have ...but it gives me the opportunity to study various examples of the same item, and if I am buying at a price I am happy with...then hopefully when it comes to move the lesser item on..I don't lose out. Therefore when someone does ask what I am after....I tend to just give a stock answer of farthings...which is probably not much more helpful I like getting immersed in the experience, and am constantly looking and thinking about potential additions which may make me appear quite ignorant at face value.....and in fairness most people can't understand the accent when I do open my mouth I haven't been to a fair for probably a year or more..... for a variety of different reasons, but I am hoping that will change soon...and I will drop by for a chat Rob

Very much a personal choice, you will find several topics on this forum having that very debate at present If I am being honest, judging from the images supplied, that farthing is probably going to cost more to slab than the value of the coin.

Hi...the website is only intended to categorise obvious differences, within each of these categories you can get minor variations. Only a full die study would potentially reveal all of the minor differences, but that would be a mammoth task for a majority of the Victorian series. Your example would get classified as combination 1A on the current website, although the series is currently being renumbered to align with other publications where possible.

You tend to find recut letters often leave behind a smaller underlying letter, because the metal fills in around the old letter as the new one is cut.