Colin G.

This is why I'm developing quite an affair with George IV farthings. Given the small date run, the incidence of errors and varieties is remarkably high and by no means completely documented, so this one doesn't surprise me at all. I have inter alia an 1825 R over R in REX which I've not seen listed anywhere. Geoff The George IV series does have a vast amount of repunching done, and cataloguing it would be difficult if not impossible. I have tried to pull out the clear repunches, such as the 1825 R/R which is very clear. I only know of two thers to date, so it appears to be quite a scarce one. This is the first 1826 I have seen with the G repunched. I have examples of this for the 1825 and 1822 farthings. Thats another one I iwll have to get added

Any chance of some photos?

There are a couple of programs about including one, details or contacts for which was posted on this site in the last couple of months. I use Access for details of my collection. Me too!!

Here is the 200x. Bob C. Bob, I have bought one or two of these in the past. They are not THE 1843 Roman I variety, because on that coin the 1 and 8 are almost touching, however it does give the impression if lit correctly (like your first picture) that it is a roman 1. I have seen several of these on ebay go for decent prices where people mistake them for the Roman 1 variety.

It surprises me that such an error, does not command higher prices.

Keelan, Have a look at my website (link below) head to the Victorian Bunhead farthings, and see if you can match it to any of the types there. There are quite q few varieties for that particular date. Any queries drop me an e-mail.

His latest feedback (8th July) describes him fairly and accurately!!!!!!!!!!! Oh great they remove the "rude" feedback and then the honest feedback, but leave him on Ebay!!! Have they lost the plot? So now not only have you got to leave positive feedback, but you can't use wording to warn other sellers. Perhaps if they bothered to check the fact that he was using his "ME" page on ebay to sell items, they may look at things a bit different!!

Its a bit of a direction change for you, I don't think many had hammered coins!!!

I remember coming across a flag site which I used for my site, which had them all listed along with their flag designs, it was actually a very good site. Flag Site

I must admit, when ebay announced that they would not let sellers leave negative feedback for buyers, I thought 'About time!' - I had not taken into account the existence of such ......... I have never seen such appalling feedback - a direct result of ebay's new policy. There are more crap buyers out there than you realise. I've had more than the odd one or two who have decided they don't want the item before paying for and seeing it despite having used buy it now or decided to leave negative feedback because you had the audacity to send a payment reminder three weeks after the item finished. Some simply don't communicate at all. I think it is wrong that sellers can't leave negatives. In this case I guess feedback has to be a case of abuse with a smile where genuinely deserved. If everyone files non paying bidder reports, he should get booted. But it doesn't stop him doing this again and again until that time arrives.

Any farthings to add?

I have to admit I try and look at these things logically, although what I know about pennies is probably not worth knowing!! Unless a coin is produced in specifically low amounts for a reason (1933 penny, die letters etc), then it stands to reason that the coins are from a currency die, and therefore the die would have presumably been used until it failed. On that principle you would anticipate that many more than 10 would have been produced. This would lead me to believe that there are probably at least several thousand of this type produced, hence Freeman's estimate. Taking into account the fact it is difficult to identify this type in lower grades this could explain why only a small proportion are currently known, but I would tend to disagree with a statement that says "only 10 are known to exist", in that I think it puts this on a par with other "genuine rarities" when it is highly likely that in actual fact many many more were produced.

There is a 1920 5c Straits Setllements which can be silver or CN if I remember correctly. The CN version is much larger than the silver version. Don't know whether the same applies to the 10c coins

Ah but you have now got an excellent book that will earn back its money if you ever decide to sell, and I can look for some new farthings

With regards to the pennies, have not got a clue!! I am very blinkered towards farthings (maybe too much) so am not fully up to date with prices on other denominations. As for buying, I look for coins from anywhere, and tend to look more at the impression I get from the sellers feedback, descriptions etc. I look more in the feedback for names of other ebay collectors I know when buying from "dealers", therefore if they were happy with the service, it should be the same for me. If it is a private sale from someone who would not normally deal in coins, i bid accordingly and take the chance. Very few problems to date, and tend to get better deals abroad. I tend to sell anywhere and then if I encounter bad experiences with the post etc, alter my approach. I have to say the only bad experiences I have to date post wise have been with Russia and Spain. It is mainly the UK postal service that cause me grief!! The best (worst) one was a high value coin sent to Italy, that was not received, but it had been sent insured. It took me a while to start getting answers from Royal Mail, and eventually they tracked the coin down in Washington DC!! It had got on the wrong plane. Coin was returned and re-sent to buyer, who was very understanding.

Hi, In certain years the production of coins was also carried out by others than the Royal mint. The H refers to coins produced at the Heaton mint (Ralph Heaton & Sons, Birmingham), the KN refers to coins produced at the Kings Norton mint (T.R Bayliss & Son, which became part of Noble Industries). Coins that were produced at these companies (in many cases) bear a mint mark to show this fact. On pennies it is positioned to the left of the date on the coin.

Very good book, highly recommended - it took me a fair while to find mine. Teg Teg, Long time no speak, how are you keeping? Did you bag any of the Oxford Collection? What did you think of the collection?

A history of coin minting technology throughout the ages and a very difficult book to obtain. A fascinating read and this copy is in excellent condition. Link to Ebay

Thats an attractive penny by the way!!! Its good to see there are still some people releasing these poor things from captivity!!

¿Trying to drum up competitive bids for my watched item aye? Thats modern ebay for you, you have to do the marketing yourself!! Good luck !! Don't forget its worth bidding that little bit extra for something you really want .

The most comprehensive book I have read on coin manufacturing is 'The art of coin making' a history of minting technology by Denis R Cooper, published by Spink & son, ISBN 0907 605 27 3. Copper variations are not very well recorded genrally and mint records very scarce to non existant for the Copper period. Most books like Bramahs and Pecks only record a few of the most well known variations. John How's that for timing, I have just put a copy on ebay for sale !!!! Link to Ebay

Awwww bless.... thats sweet. Probably worth more than my bloomin 'sovereign' from my gran! I have got a bit of a background to the "Cumberland Jacks" on my site - Hanover Tokens

Teg, There are a few there that take my fancy also!! Decisions decisions......... I have to agree on the comments about farthing grading also, some look initially great in the hand, have a closer look and the difference is staggering.

Chris, I agree, I got really excited by the list, but some of the coins were not what I had pictured from the description BU Full Lustre. Although it is always difficult to capture lustre on a photo, I have my doubts, but still some nice coins in there, just got to persuade my wife to let me have a spend now!!

I can vouch for Clive, he is great at spotting mistakes!!!!