Michael-Roo

I managed eight and a half minutes before wanting to slit my wrists…… YAWN I thought hobbies were supposed to be fun .

From Hong Kong? Heavens. What surprise……...

Judging grade from photos is one thing, a coin having been cleaned is another. If cleaning isn't apparent in the photos (which is the case here ) then I think you have a legitimate complaint as the item wasn't accurately described. Also: whether a seller does or doesn't offer refunds is irrelevant. As a buyer of anything, anywhere, you have the right to request a refund if not satisfied.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Sorry Dave. My wife slapped my hand away in the nick of time. 'OOh er Missus'. And all that…..

He's even managed to find an example which has crap stuck to the obverse. £135 'buy it now'. Help! Please! Hold me back someone. My finger is being drawn to the button………………

GVF generally.

Many happy returns to Tom, Colin, and Muy. Have a good day one and all.

Yikes, that's ugly!

He added WRL to the description now. Not the words "replica" though. Didn't realise but you can see the feedback they give to others. He leaves negatives prior to contacting the seller to sort out the problem if he's not happy. Would pretty much always seek resolution and leave a positive if handled properly. I see it now stands at £40.99 with five bids and three hours to go! I simply don't get it. Even if bidders haven't scrolled down to the bottom of the page where he's added 'WRL' the stamp is clearly obvious in the reverse photos.

17th century mint employees drinking tea on a work break? They must have been earning more than I had imagined!

What else was there in the box. Anything interesting?

I agree. 'Fair'.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/coin-sixpence-1562-/231433275495?pt=UK_Coins_BritishHammered_RL&hash=item35e27f8867

Following Stuart's suggestion I'm moving my requests for Everson IDs from 'Acquisition of the Week' over to here. Makes much more sense to continue this under the British Hammered' banner. Anyway: Here's another. Interestingly, this one is badly cut and includes part of the beaded border of the next coin on the strip. What is the PM? To me it looks like an acorn.

I've received this reply from the seller, but I see the listing remains unchanged. New message from: jbro80005 (190) ok cheers Reply YOU: Hi Jbro, The Henry VIII groat you have listed is a modern pewter (not silver) replica made by WRL. If you look at the reverse you will see their stamp to the left of the shield. These replicas are sold on presentation cards and are available on line and in museum gift shops for a couple of pounds each. Kind regards, Mchael

Done. As well as drawing his attention to WRL being clearly stamped in the reverse field I've also told him its not silver. At least the buyer will be able to return under the 'not as described' option if he/she realises the mistake once the 'coin' is received.

I would've bid on that if I'd known about it. I guess you would have too?

Well said Chris.

Possibly a poorly made facsimile intended for a cheap item of jewellery?

Blowed if I know. Poor workmanship, whatever it is. And why 'GILT' on the reverse? 18 bids on it already I see.

Are you sending yourself up? There's a spelling error in your question. Chris is just pulling your leg.

Stuart passed this on to Tim Everson who responded below: If a contemporary counterfeit it is indeed of very fine work, especially when compared with others of the same period. Thank you for showing me this most interesting coin. Nice that it is in such nice condition too. As you say the punctuation is the same as my 129i on the obverse, the reverse is unusual in having a stop after FRAN rather than an apostrophe stop. It is of good style but it was well spotted of you concerning the fleur de lis on the sceptre tops. They do not look right and it makes me thin that 129i was perhaps an excellent counterfeit as I think this is rather than poor genuine piece. It is new to my book and I would classify it as follows: 130g*. (BMC 252)pm Woolpack. Obverse as 129i. Reverse 2 but stop after FRAN. Six strings. Die axis 0. [ER] (It is now the author's opinion that this piece and 129i may be counterfeit because of the upright die axis and the unusual obverse readings) Thanks again so much for this Happy Christmas Tim

Upload a couple of photos Jordan. We'll be able to tell you if its genuine or counterfeit.