Michael-Roo

Geordie's 'My Gallery' link (above the Omicoin one).

Cheers Colin. Mine is EF (though you might not know so from the photo), and the partially visible underlying form is clear and certainly a letter. Well cut and in high relief. Definitely not die crud. And, you're right, Colin Cooke always did catalogue it as such, so I guess we'll go with that for the foreseeable.

I have a really nice, clear, example of this variety. Commonly referred to as 'G over O'. I've read in the past there has been some dispute as to what the G is actually punched on top of. No doubt it is over something. Do other members have any views they would like to share? The coin is listed in the Cooke collection as 'extremely rare'. I'd also be interested to hear your estimates of how rare it is (numbers known etc). Thanks all

Richard, you're probably all the better for not knowing. I still mourn the demise of the 12 inch album and all the associated artwork. Speaking of which: I just took a look at your gallery. You have some nice things in there. I'm a full time professional illustrator, so can fully appreciate what you're doing. And, any cat fan is always ok in my book…..

It's a BEAUTY on my screen.

If you're talking about "silver" post-1816 coins that are actually copper washed with silver, these are actually not fakes but forgeries produced at the time. Collectors know all about these (indeed our own seuk has made an expert study of them), and they should be classed as 'items of interest' and not as counterfeits. And in the US, GIII copper "evasions" from the mid-18th Century are widely collected and valued. If they are actually modern reproductions and sold as such, I don't see that any law has been broken if they are not misrepresented. They may be sold described as modern repros by the manufacturer but, as they don't carry any mark making it clear as to what they are, I suppose problems could arise further down the line?

Best not mention personal iTunes libraries. Vast music collections which can't been seen or touched. That might just confuse matters further….. We're just pulling your leg Fubar

Plus Velvet Underground. New York Dolls. Gram Parsons. Steve Earle etc. etc.

Well, bits of Aftermath, more or less the whole of Beggars Banquet, most of Let It Bleed, the whole of Sticky Fingers, and bits of Exile On Main Street.. I was never a big Stones fan. Dare I ask what your list would be? (Mine would be longer but I ran out of energy ) So similar to your own as to be uncanny (apart from Yes) which is why I asked about 1963-73 Rolling Stones. For me you'd have to add 1960s Trojan and Atlantic soul, plus heaps of opera and baroque stuff….

That's quite a list! No Jones/Taylor era Stones?

Hi Chris. There are plenty of examples of this one in the archives, so not simply a 'clutter' anomaly. London Coins sold a ropey fine one some years ago. C Cooke had one. Our fellow member who has the farthing site lists it. So very much a recognised variety. It's true it may not be that the G is over an O (but it certainly looks like it is), however it certainly is over another letter. I must admit, I hadn't spotted evidence of a serif. I'll have a look and report back. On your photograph, the top right of the G curves down, like a C - however, there's another feature behind it that continues straight on; that to my eyes looks like a serif. Then if you go down from the top right, to the horizontal cross-stroke of the G, between the two there is a down stroke that exactly matches the vertical on the left, that probably has been thought of as the left inner of an O (but it may not be?). I've had a another look using my loupe. The 'blob' at the end of the G (upper right) is just the serif at the end of the letter, not something lying beneath. The downstroke of the underlying letter curves out and in again as would an O. If it were the right vertical stroke of a U it would be more upright. We may have to wait for Colin's input on this one…. No, I don't mean the blob of metal that makes people think of an O - I mean underlying that, and fractionally to the left : there's a vertical, straight, downstroke exactly matching the vertical downstroke inside the left hand curve of the G. Ah yes. I see what you mean.

Hi Chris. There are plenty of examples of this one in the archives, so not simply a 'clutter' anomaly. London Coins sold a ropey fine one some years ago. C Cooke had one. Our fellow member who has the farthing site lists it. So very much a recognised variety. It's true it may not be that the G is over an O (but it certainly looks like it is), however it certainly is over another letter. I must admit, I hadn't spotted evidence of a serif. I'll have a look and report back. On your photograph, the top right of the G curves down, like a C - however, there's another feature behind it that continues straight on; that to my eyes looks like a serif. Then if you go down from the top right, to the horizontal cross-stroke of the G, between the two there is a down stroke that exactly matches the vertical on the left, that probably has been thought of as the left inner of an O (but it may not be?). I've had a another look using my loupe. The 'blob' at the end of the G (upper right) is just the serif at the end of the letter, not something lying beneath. The downstroke of the underlying letter curves out and in again as would an O. If it were the right vertical stroke of a U it would be more upright. We may have to wait for Colin's input on this one….

No. Enlighten me. April issue. Answers by March 15th…. Not a typo at all - bear in mind that November's issue of MOJO will drop onto my doormat before the end of September 'Twas always thus. If you look at any January edition of Coin Monthly, it will be full of Xmas gift ideas. As to the quiz, the only one I'm certain of is that A is Victoria Mojo. Are you a bit of a rocker then Chris? Who do you listen to?

Hi Chris. There are plenty of examples of this one in the archives, so not simply a 'clutter' anomaly. London Coins sold a ropey fine one some years ago. C Cooke had one. Our fellow member who has the farthing site lists it. So very much a recognised variety. It's true it may not be that the G is over an O (but it certainly looks like it is), however it certainly is over another letter. I must admit, I hadn't spotted evidence of a serif. I'll have a look and report back. That'd be Colin. Apologies. I wasn't being rude. Just didn't have the info to hand as I was writing….

Hi Chris. There are plenty of examples of this one in the archives, so not simply a 'clutter' anomaly. London Coins sold a ropey fine one some years ago. C Cooke had one. Our fellow member who has the farthing site lists it. So very much a recognised variety. It's true it may not be that the G is over an O (but it certainly looks like it is), however it certainly is over another letter. I must admit, I hadn't spotted evidence of a serif. I'll have a look and report back.

All this is way beyond what I'd be likely to spend on a hobby! Scott. How about your tuppence worth then eh?…..

No. Enlighten me. April issue. Answers by March 15th….

PS: Spot the text error?

There are also identical rim nicks seven teeth before the centre of G in Gratia.

Here's one of mine which looks remarkably similar. Long, well defined, teeth on the reverse. Short, bead like, teeth on the obverse.

No one could argue it isn't as described!

I've had a fair bit of fun with them, at a time I could do little else! It's the only opportunity to 'feel' what it was like for all those 'boys' on here who collected from change ions ago! Second only to squatting in rubble and playing machine guns in the early forties. Good fun, mostly, for the kids at least!I believe Christmas was better appreciated back then too! http://www.phespirit.info/montypython/four_yorkshiremen.htm

I've had a fair bit of fun with them, at a time I could do little else! It's the only opportunity to 'feel' what it was like for all those 'boys' on here who collected from change ions ago! Second only to squatting in rubble and playing machine guns in the early forties. Good fun, mostly, for the kids at least!I believe Christmas was better appreciated back then too! I first became interested when 'check your change' was all the rage in 1969-71. As a kid of 11-12 I was fascinated to be finding coins in my pocket which were anything up to 110 years old. Worn almost flat, obviously, but, at that age, precious to me nevertheless. I still have them. Even though I now have coins in my collection worth several £100's it is those first humble kept pennies and halfpennies which I'd be most likely to hold on to.

So still quids in on his £22 punt.

Ha!