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I like that guy Derek you mentioned Paul. Though granted, yes, i agree that all the letters should be visible for fine. I was a wee bit exuberant with the tag fine, nearer Michaels vg or nf condition.

Nice coin...how much did it sell for Michael?

It worked!! Thank you. You should mb start a new forum on computer skills!! Much appreciated.

Is there any easy way to attach an ebay item on to here? I see there is something called a URL. If i put the ebay item number in the box provided, would that be correct? Thanks in advance.

I so loved the way he filled up the purse with the coins and rubble!! ?????

Obverse.

A niceish1904 halfcrown

Obverse

Well as fine a 1905 as i will get without breaking the bank and the other half breaking my neck!! The rest vary in my opinion from at least fine to very fine. Heres the 1905 Kris.

Two or three iffy ones but at the price of £660 for the set which included a fine 1905 which i was after, i cannot complain. The poor 1903 plummeted in my expectations though.?

Its more battered than bruised!!

And the obverse!!

O.k 1949 threepence. ..thank you very much.I think i,ve cracked it. Your help is once again much appreciated. I will go and try another thread and test it out. Glad your not charging for all this info!!

Cool!! So you do the metal detecting as well then? Never found anything interesting here in the far north of the Scottish Highlands except decimal money which the English must have accidentally dropped on holiday ? Did find my one and only hammered coin near Fort William two months ago. It was a 1598 Queen Elizabeth shilling, but in a bad state.

Haha Stu!! Would you believe this was the 1st copy i inadvertently purchased last year, but luckily managed to return!! I, haven't seem them doing the rounds recently.Seems to be an upsurge in them.

I just had to message him and let him know. He said he was new to all this and how do i know its a fake? I explained the loveheart in the reverse quarter where the number 15 is a dead giveaway. He just messaged me back saying he will contact the original seller and withdraw the item from sale.

Bang on the money with the price copper. Glad to see i wasn't overcharged. Thanks.

Hi, just stumbled across this link. I,ve recently started collecting hammered coins. I purchased this one last month which seems to be in pretty nice condition. Its dimensions are ok and it looks the part. Just to be a 100% sure i thought i would run it past you members for a 2nd opinion as i seen from Coinerys post that there are fakes about.

Thanks. These are very interesting links which i will bookmark. Gave me a good browsing session last night. Good to see though that at least one site actually marks on the coin that its a copy. I gather there is no law against producing and selling replica coins without them being stamped. I know there were a few fake Victoria halfcrowns turning up on ebay. They looked very convincing. I should have purchased one just to familiarise myself with them. As you said, if i am not sure i can put in a search for a coin in the forum. Thanks again for your time and advice.

It is a nice coin but way out of my price range. I know you shouldn't put an uncirculated coin with lustre on your hand, its not the 1st time i,ve received a really nice coin with a thumb print. I,ve recently taken to taking pictures like this, to catch the right light and colour of the coin, but not with coins with lustre. Maybe thats his thinking.

Hi Ukstu. Thanks for your valued info. I hope i can at least tell genuine millled coins by now. Its the hammered coins which i started collecting this year that i am not at all sure about. I do like the look of them in my collection, i have only about a dozen so far. Not really expensive coins, ranging from £20 to my most recent and nicest coin at £150 which is a Charles 1st halfcrown and has centre stage in my collection of hammered coins. As for Roman coins. ...that is totally different territory and i would not venture into collecting them. Those coins really look a minefield for forgeries unless perhaps you are dealing directly with a reputable auction house, even then by all accounts the forgeries are that good the auctioneers have been fooled on occasion. Its sad really as it will put future generations off coin collecting. Would you believe i have a link to a roman coin forgery discussion page, but i cannot find a milled coin forgery page. Have you a link to the one you mentioned? Thanks again and regards.

I would not claim that i am an expert Azda (i wish) or i wouldn't be buying/selling coins for a small profit on ebay, i would be working for one of the larger auction houses instead. I only started collecting/buying/selling milled coins 3 or 4 years ago and have learned some things through the internet etc, about what coins to stay away from, as i do my homework first, before purchasing a coin. I love reading about the history of coins and of the Kings and Queens who reigned at the time. I never was one for history at school so if nothing else it has piqued my interet in this subject. Granted, i have inadvertently purchased 3 or 4 fakes over the years, but on receiving them i realised this and sent them back, but i,m sure we all make mistakes now and again and trust people too much. To answer your questions about how do i know a coin is not a fake. First as i said, i will do extensive searches first on the internet if i suspect a coin is a fake or copy before i purchase it, although it would be easier to ask an expert on here and save an awful lot of time and effort, but some people seem to be of the opinion, its my info, i,ve done the homework, buy your own books and check it yourself, which now makes me dubious about asking. Although most of the guys i,ve met have been terrific with their help i may add. On receiving any coin i first have a good look at it. I then weigh it and check the size of it, listen to the noise it makes, even smell it, as circulated coins have a certain smell when held in your hand for a wee bit. Then as a final option i found this site a few weeks ago which was a great help with my latest venture of collecting hammered coins, not for resale i may add. If i am uncertain at all i will return a coin, though this rarely happens, ebay is not as bad as people make out, its just the odd few that give it a bad name. There are other places i find that i find just as bad ir worse. For instance, one of the biggest auction houses which i,ve bought my coins from, where all their coins are photoshopped to make them look like they all have the same appearance, these are the ones i,ve been lucky to break even with. But whose going to argue and ask for a return with a big company like that when some of the coins look totally awful in hand? Surely thats as crooked as the few fakes being sold on ebay, amazon etc... Its possible Azda that i,ve inadvertently sold a fake coin which i,ve purchased for resale . But i can safely say i have never had anyone contacting me saying a coin i have listed, looks like or is a fake, which i hope they would, then i can withdraw it from sale and learn from my mistakes. Out of over 3000 sales i have 100% feedback so i must be doing something right. From any profit from these sales i plough it all back into my collection, which i would now put a value of at least 20k on the milled coins which keep getting better quality . I started off with about a £200 pot and some poor pennies/halfpennies. This is why i don't use my own money, its because i enjoy buying/selling and collecting coins at no cost to myself. I enjoy the buzz of the online live auctions and picking up a bargain, of which i will make a profit on about 80% of the coins i purchase. There's not as much work and effort required as you think. Sometimes its a case of in one door and out the other. I,ve no particular choice of coin that i am after for my milled coin collection, even though they're for sale its still a collection, i just buy whatever comes along at the right price. Seuk has helped me out greatly on a couple of matters. It would be great to look through his/hers website. Do you know the name of it? Can you recommend any books on fake british milled coins and hammered coins? Thanks and regards.

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But the thing Argentumancoins is, i never asked Rob for advice on any coin for me to make a profit from. I,m perfectly capable of that myself. I only put forward an idea to help people from being ripped of from ebay, following on from Toms thread. Yes i am ever so slightly offended. I never came on here to be chastised like some naughty schoolkid who has not done their homework. Trust me, i put a lot of time and effort into online searches about coins i am unsure of, granted there were a couple i came up with nothing and as such i used the forum as a last resort. Sorry we cannot all afford to plough thousands of pounds into coin books, personally i would rather buy coins with my money, but thats why you are the experts and as such you are able to help with any questions. If you feel the need to be "pissed off" at any questions i may have in the future, simple, please don,t put your tuppence worth in and keep your opinions to yourself.

I,ve been a bit lucky then. I buy milled and early milled coins. I purchase about 90% of my coins from ebay for resale and made a profit from most of them, about 80% of them and a small loss on the rest. Some of them over 100% profit, so sorry Leo there are bargains to be had everyday if you know what your looking for. I,ve only just purchased an 1872 Queen Victoria florin from ebay which cost me £74 in total. I guarantee you i will make money on it. I,ve fortunately only inadvertently purchased four fake coins from over 3000 purchases on ebay that i know of. Them being as follows: 1713 Queen Anne crown. 1874 florin. 1935 crown and a Charles 1st shilling. All of which ebay refunded me for. My motto was before i found this forum last month, was if it didn't look right don't touch it and its served me well, but we all make mistakes. But having the forum here its always good to get a 2nd opinion when needed, as when i purchased the Charles 1st shilling, (of which i am new to collecting) which did not feel quite right to me and due to diligent nembers i was told it was a copy and i was able to return it for a refund. Thanks again to all who helped with that. If it was not for reliance and opinions of other people Rob, what is the point of having a forum? And who mentioned one off lifetime changing purchases. Whats that all about?? I,m only looking to make a couple of quid profit on any purchases to invest in my own collection. I,m sure we all do our homework but if we are not 100% sure its always reassuring to get a 2nd opinion. Regards.