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I’ll have to check the first, and you don’t have the third. I’ll email you the images probably tomorrow. Jerry

well spotted Terry, got me looking at my three 1861 Gouby G's , the first from LCA and then cheap examples from Ebay and the Midland Coin Fair. To my mind the second coin could also be a 're-entered colon' example, though with a narrower colon in this case. What do you think? Jerry

And sadly not class 4 but class 5, one of many subtypes but without the book and after a good few beers I’ll have to come back to this tomorrow. Jerry

Mintmark martlet. Jerry

I agree, I use it all the time, with searches that send me an email if matches occur. Jerry

All three coins require basic conservation to optimise their potential, but all are nice detector finds. Individually, a dedicated numismatic auctioneer is unlikely to take them on. The tealby has an exceptional portrait, but is marred by the edge chip though it remains the most desirable. Dobunnic units in uncleaned condition may struggle to hit £50, I would see if it can be improved - most detecting clubs have someone who could advise, the aluminium foil/ alkali method often works well. If I had to sell, I would offer these for via Ebay or Facebook, set a reserve or price if you wish and see what happens. But as a long-standing detectorist myself I would say keep them, and find the upgrade money elsewhere - you will always regret selling your best finds. Jerry

Best place? A coin fair every time, followed by a recognised dealer or auction house. EBay and Facebook are widely used but fraught with risk for a beginner, especially the latter due to the sheer number of fakes and misrepresentation. As you learn more about the subject you may be inclined to take greater risks on EBay - bargains can be had - but in general Caveat Emptor applies. Purchases via this forum are pretty safe if via a long-standing member, but only rarely offered. Jerry PS and welcome to the forum, sound advice (usually) freely offered here.

Thanks for posting this both. It was always too good to be true when the sellers fees disappeared, now the buyer takes the hit! I suppose poor Ebay has to make its billions somehow, after all they have to keep employing all those accountants/politicians to avoid paying tax! Jerry

Here are a couple of group pics of the British coins, I bought 36 on a little felt lined box, I think I have posted one of each type. I also bought a mixed lot in lesser condition including quite a lot of German coin types. Jerrj

Thanks Kai, I’ll get some photos over the next couple of days. Jerry

What is the best reference for these tiny coins? I couldn’t resist buying a bag of them at the MCF today and I would like to be able to read up on them in addition to the excellent info here. Is Rogers ‘Toy Coins’ still the one to buy? If so, if anyone can point me in the right direction please do so, internet searches have drawn a blank. thanks, Jerry

I’m not sure that the answer is straightforward. Although this variety is listed in the appendix of the most recent Freeman, it (in common with other new discoveries) has not been allocated a Freeman number. In reality, the variety is no more an F38 than an F39 as in both cases the obverses are different and so it is not a sub-variety of either. All I can do is tell you what I do in these circumstances, pending a complete revision of Freeman. I catalogue my pennies by date primarily, Freeman number secondarily (occasionally Gouby No where he recognises the type) and in the absence of any published varietal identifier I write something like ‘not in Freeman’ and a summary of what makes it different eg ‘Freeman 3+G’ or ‘14 teeth’ or whatever. That has the advantage that it is universally applicable, anybody reading my tickets knows what he is dealing with. Jerry

Thanks for coming to my defence, Blakeyboy, but I take no offence from PT/KB’s comment, I have absolutely no idea who Norris Cole is but also I have a 4yr old grandson so I am quite used to name calling.’ Stinky Grandon ‘ is his current epithet I believe, bless his little heart! Jerry

Excellent idea! Penny Trump? Jerry