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Here are pics of an 1863 penny that I found in a bulk lot a couple of weeks ago, and have not seen before. At first glance it could be mistaken for a 3/1 overstrike, but I am sure this is 3 over a mis-placed 3 also giving a spike from the outer curve of the '3' but this spike curved rather than straight. There is a small step in the top bar of the '3', which is possibly due to the top bar of the repair '3' punch, though the distances would not fit with the curve of the spike unless the overstrike '3' punch was of a different size font so the jury is out there. I would welcome opinions, but it is interesting and has a place in my collection, particularly as it cost nothing. Jerry

I really wouldn’t bet on it being F32, despite comparable date alignment when the other major identifiers are not there. Even the tail of the plume is too fine imo. But if any member has bought it, I am happy to be proved wrong! (not as nice as mine anyway 😉). Jerry

Is that really an F32? Lighthouse looks pointy, and where’s the rock? Obverse is 6, with colon flaw, so not F21. it’s not F28 looking at the exergue. Not sure what’s going on there, must be missing something. And the bidding over £15 was driven entirely by two individuals. Jerry

First thing I would do is find out the commission if any for sellers. Then I would look at their prices for similar coins in the past. That info will help you make a choice. I find both good but as a purchaser only. Jerry

It actually does look very nice, good if slightly subdued lustre, merits it’s MS64 slab. The Jackson coin is just a bit brighter I believe. Jerry

I don’t see why not, Guy (the Coinery) who now does the auctions of that name. Jerry

Had a chance to see and handle(in its slab) the 40K 1882 F112 at the Midland Coin Fair today, a very pretty coin……but what a price! Anyway the new owner seems happy, I would have shown it off too! Bought some nice halfpennies, thanks Rob! Jerry

Is this Marleybob by a different name? She’s from Leeds as well. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255155828593?hash=item3b6878f771:g:BSsAAOSwxOthVHK0 Similar contrived sort of story, and look at the verbiage attached to some of her other items. And the number of faked ‘error’ £5 notes she has sold for good money 😠 Oh, and you can have the rag free too. Jerry

Thanks everybody, and particularly to Gary who has provided an excellent scan. Great response from the forum, as ever! Jerry

It’s on the Baldwins site, not St James’s. 😉 Jerry

There has been a host server problem since yesterday evening, looks like it might be sorted now. Jerry

I only bid for the Aethelred II Hereford penny, double struck obverse but a new moneyer for me, and I am happy with the price. Hereford is a scarce mint. I wonder, shall I go for the Charles I halfcrown coming up on DNW, putatively Hereford? Lotsa dosh. ☹️. Jerry

The way the silver appears to be bubbling and lost in places, especially on the reverse, makes me think it is a plated copy. Jerry

In this case, as I understand, the finders had permission from the tenant, but not the landowner who is said to have been anti detecting. Had they declared the hoard initially, they would likely be deemed to have been acting reasonably, if unaware of the true land ownership, and would have shared half of the multi million hoard valuation. Instead they are part way through sentences of 8 and 10 years, and with confiscation orders hanging over them. I have little sympathy. Jerry

These arrests and subsequent charges are an extension of the investigations into the dispersal of the north Herefordshire Saxon hoard which have already resulted in four convictions and substantial prison sentences previously discussed on this site. Reports previously suggested that around 30 coins from this hoard were recovered in the Durham raids. A number of ‘two emperor’ coins are included, hence the high valuation. Initial ‘guesstimates’ of the total coins in the hoard were around 300, so there are still well over 200 yet to be recovered. Jerry

I don’t know, but the ‘8’ looks like the sort of 8/6 shape that when I buy it on EBay it is always just clogged with dirt. 🤐 Jerry

https://rarestpennies.wordpress.com/1860-f763/ Jerry

I think the 1860 may be an F763 with the pattern obverse. Well done. Jerry

That is amazing work Ian! Nice! Jerry

I am pretty sure that the silhouette of the two ‘5’s is identical, which it should not be if there was a mis-placed ‘repair’. I think there is another reason for the apparent difference other than an altered die. Can you superimpose the images? Perhaps the apparent dent in the horizontal of the above ‘5’ is an earlier stage die fill. Jerry

I don’t think anything is underneath, either a bit of die fill or a small knock to the crossbar of the ‘5’. But it could do with photo superimposition on a ‘normal’ ‘5’ to be sure that the outlines are the same. This surely must be a single die variety. Jerry

None of my three have a repaired ‘5’, looking like yours, though the two better ones clearly show a very minor degree of doubling of the ‘8’, ‘7’ and ‘5’. Jerry

Yes, I noted that but thought that as I already have three I shouldn’t be greedy! Jerry

Well, I can’t see any obvious reason for the initial failure to post, and I can see where your response was intended to sit . I hope that forum members make every effort not to deal with this individual going forward, I certainly would not knowingly sell a coin to him, given that he may demonstrably not act reasonably in any deal and because of the way he has treated you, Richard. I cannot see why he is happy to risk his reputation as a penny collector, other than that he is driven by wealth and arrogance to feel he is immune from public opinion. A sorry situation. Jerry