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Hello Larry, it’s good to see you on the forum. This is the place to demonstrate any other interesting repairs, overstrikes etc you may have spotted. Don’t be afraid to list, people may be forthright in their opinions on occasion but are always keen to help and we can generally reach a consensus. Several of the top penny people in the country contribute to this forum. Jerry

Hi Bob, from the new pic it is definitely not an * obverse, the eye line is horizontal, and the bust is clear of the normal thickness beaded border. It is definitely F6. Jerry

Hi Bob, I did ponder over this one when it was first listed, and decided that it was probably an F6. One of the problems I found was that the obverse photo is slanted, making the border rim appear quite thick towards the viewer, but it appears thinner away from the viewer; a 1* or 1** obverse should have an evenly thick rim. It may be slightly off-struck. The angle of the eyes is difficult to judge because of the slanting photo. The bust does not appear to touch the beaded border, and the linear circle is well defined. I am not convinced by the size of shamrock, but either way the other obverse 1* identifiers would have to be present. I will stick with F6, 1+B but if you can take a truly vertical obverse photo that would clarify the issue. Jerry

I had an email from Michael Gouby today, most importantly his eye surgery seems to have been a success, and he is making a good recovery. He also confirms that he considers the ( F33) N over inverted N to be a genuine new variety, which is a nice confirmation. Jerry

I would be interested Pete, if available. Jerry

Looks fine to me, can’t blame the coin for the blurry photo. Jerry

Yes, reverse I is a wide date.

I wonder whether it has been lacquered, all the rage in the ‘70’s. if it was moved around when the lacquer was only partially dry, you might get this sort of effect. Calls for a soak in acetone, wont do any harm anyway. Jerry

Modern replica. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-Choice-George-III-Cartwheel-Penny-Coin/192520289731?hash=item2cd31a7dc3:g:Gj0AAOSw5m1a3ndd Please report. Jerry

Interesting, but I’m afraid I’m not convinced either. The ‘Y’ in particular looks too close to the border to have originally had a vertical, and appears to be a solid triangle, rather than a ‘V’. The ‘O’ would also seem a little low, and there is other ‘stuff’ going on either side of the ‘C’. Not impossible I agree, but I don’t think there is enough evidence for a very unlikely ‘re-positioned L C WYON’ scenario here, and can only presume that the demarcation (Gouby G) and then removal (Freeman 5) of the base of the bust was indeed indicative of an intent to erase the signature rather than move it. Jerry

Comparing it with mine, NOT a Ja. This is a close-up of the helmet of my F72 Ja, quite different shape below the plume. Jerry

And finally for now a nice F28 from Dave Craddock, £470, nowhere nice as Richards recent one, but a decent upgrade.

1898 8 bisects Ebay £17.76

F98 narrow date 1879 Ebay £110 inc postage

1860 early beaded pattern F763 Ebay £17.50

1926 ME Ebay £570.55

1903 open 3 Ebay £2.81 inc postage.

These pennies have actually come my way over the last few months, mostly on Ebay, I have given prices to show that there are still (in my opinion) good buys out there! 1893/2 £42

Perhaps your site has been mentioned on a Russian forum. What numbers are we talking about? From sunny Vladivostok. Not. Jerry 😉

I’ve had a few, had to open a new browser page and kill the old to move on. EBay not doing well at the moment. Jerry

It’s probably even commoner with the ‘I’ and ‘O’ !🤫 Jerry

I’m afraid I don’t have them, and I don’t think Larry does but I’ll speak to him, I told him I’d keep him informed of opinion. He was under the impression he might already have sold the coin. He spots a lot of ‘varieties’ - about half the pennies he examines by the figures he gave me- basically repairs and reinforcements that are not erroneous- I don’t think he realised the significance of this particular one. Jerry

Quite right, must put my glasses on! But it still shows the different wear pattern nicely! 😇 Jerry

Looks like F29, and the Britannia is much better preserved vis a vis the shield, conforming to Mikes observation. Jerry

Thanks Bernie, that is a very useful and relevant insight! Jerry