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Not sure that it is an electrotype, Kal suggests that it is a replica from dies by a known modern replica workshop, certainly the work is stylistically very poor and the silver (?) surface looks suspicious to me. Not the genuine article anyway, if they were ever produced during the civil war, though it might be a genuine ‘Scarborough Siege Piece’ if they are all more recent fantasy pieces ?. Jerry

The whole perspective of the coin on the left is distorted by the lens and equipment used compared to the right, we are not comparing like for like and I personally would not draw any conclusions . Jerry

Rob and Kal have discussed this within the last couple of days ; another fake. Jerry

What do you think of these?? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cnut-Short-Cross-Silver-Penny-Waldlos-Of-Lincoln-1029-35/222779920673?hash=item33deb7d121:g:i-EAAOSwzXxaS~OX https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KING-CNUT-SHORT-CROSS-SILVER-PENNY-1029-1035-AD/332506461339?hash=item4d6aedf49b:g:454AAOSwyYFaS7ly Ignore the mis-identification of the first, which we have discussed before, the pics to me appear to show reverse matches, even to the peck marks! I.e. more cast fakes. And the rest of their stock. Get reporting, guys! Jerry

Why on earth do you ask that? You have had an unpleasant experience with one dealer, and have described your side of the story on this forum. You now seem to be insinuating that bad practice is endemic in the profession. This is totally unfair of you, and I have personally never found a dealer other than fair and courteous, and I attend coin fairs and buy on line regularly. There are a number of dealers on this forum who provide freely of their time and expertise for the benefit of all whom I am sure would not take kindly to the implication in the question. You complain on another thread of the activity of “trolls” on the forum, in fact one individual who made unwise alcohol fuelled comments for which he later apologised , then you follow up with this sort of statement. I see little difference. Jerry

HAPPY NEW YEAR, guys an’ gals, from the Bridge Inn, deepest Herefordshire, to all for whom the forum is important, Happy Hunting for the year ahead. Jerry and Libby

I’m with you, Rob, on this one, which is why I don’t have one in my collection, and I wouldn’t pay a significant premium for one, though if one did come my way I would probably hold on to it, because of the perceived interest of others. True varieties should be the result of an act of man on the die. The same applies to the ONF penny, and a number of others, which shouldn’t really be in the books as a variety, though they may merit a footnote. Jerry

Here is the link to the EBay coin. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1897-PENNY-WITH-DOT-IN-O-NE-Gouby-BP1897B-Freeman-F147/263400680794?hash=item3d53e76d5a:g:wYMAAOSwnTdaPWNF Jerry

Hi Zo Arms, I suspect part of the problem is that it doesn’t look like a ‘normal’ O’NE penny, which will put people off, the dot seems too low. Here is a link to the LCA site. http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&searchterm=Penny+1897+O’ne&searchtype=1 Otherwise the price would be about right, they are not all that scarce. Jerry

I don’t have the definitive answer re the Briot coinage, not my field, but they look like file marks and how adjustment marks usually look. Perhaps Rob’s expertise is called for again here? Jerry

Beautiful ! The scratches I presume are adjustment marks, contemporary with manufacture and therefore perfectly acceptable. Well done! Jerry

We really need pictures to give a practical comment.

Not sure it’s the worst offering, but I certainly don’t want to try it! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victoria-Bum-Head-One-Penny/182981956692?hash=item2a9a931454:g:NGkAAOSwrxdaQW0c Jerry

WTF? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/one-penny-1898/222762363666?hash=item33ddabeb12:g:3ygAAOSwEkhZvY1C Jerry

You don’t often see either for sale, and unless properly described it is a bit ‘pot luck’. My lustrous F175 was a bargain just under £100 from a dealer at the MCF, but my similar F176 was nearer £300 at LCA. They are both very rare in UNCish grades. I would have thought £50 would not be unreasonable for a nice VF, but that is just my thought rather than evidence based. Jerry

Cascades? Yes, distinctly unfortunate under the circumstances though appears to be a widely used reference in the Seattle area. But I would have thought the Amtrak Cascades homepage could have had some emergency modification, particularly the prominent section about how safe their trains are. And Trump, bless him, used the incident to push ‘his’ infrastructure plans, with his thoughts for the victims a somewhat belatedly tweeted afterthought. On advice from a real human, I suppose. Jerry

At least half of his many wares are modern fantasy pieces and fakes, all claimed as ancient, and he has massive positive feedback. He has the same supplier as Saxby I suspect. I have little sympathy for the idiots who buy this tat, but really he belongs behind bars. Jerry

The hand mark was associated with the Antwerp makers, quite often seen on coin weights, I have one that I found and researched 30 years ago. Jerry

I’m sure it’s just a typo, decimal point in the wrong place ?. Jerry

I s’pose we should be grateful for small mercies ?.

Don’t fall for it! Has he a case against NGC? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1897-Great-Britain-Penny-Ultra-Rare-High-Sea-Level-KM-790-NGC-MS-62-BN/122859101797?hash=item1c9af91e65:g:oYwAAOSwke9aMYf9 Jerry

Do have the hack gold checked through the PAS/treasure procedure. A mate and I found some a couple of years ago, still going through the process but analysis has shown a 99% probability that it is of Bronze Age date, much earlier than we had thought. Jerry

Yes, I too love a dark patina where the surfaces are good and have that lustrous sheen. I don’t know if they still used hypo as late as 1950, can’t say I’ve confidently seen it post 1946. Jerry

A good example of how easy it is to demonstrate non-existent differences by using low resolution photographs, lighting differences and coins of varying degrees of wear across the coins. I am sure that in the hand, or if photographed identically, the dies would be shown to be identical. As for possible ‘missing waves’, maybe but can’t tell from the photo. It is of course possible that this feature occurs on all dates wher the ‘greasing’ of new dies prior to use use took place, I find it hard to consider this a true variety, more akin to a mint error in that the die was not properly de-greased before use. Jerry

True, I was going by the fact he mentions all the rest of the legend on the coin but not that it stated a denomination. That may simply be an omission. Jerry