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The hand mark was associated with the Antwerp makers, quite often seen on coin weights, I have one that I found and researched 30 years ago. Jerry

I’m sure it’s just a typo, decimal point in the wrong place ?. Jerry

I s’pose we should be grateful for small mercies ?.

Don’t fall for it! Has he a case against NGC? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1897-Great-Britain-Penny-Ultra-Rare-High-Sea-Level-KM-790-NGC-MS-62-BN/122859101797?hash=item1c9af91e65:g:oYwAAOSwke9aMYf9 Jerry

Do have the hack gold checked through the PAS/treasure procedure. A mate and I found some a couple of years ago, still going through the process but analysis has shown a 99% probability that it is of Bronze Age date, much earlier than we had thought. Jerry

Yes, I too love a dark patina where the surfaces are good and have that lustrous sheen. I don’t know if they still used hypo as late as 1950, can’t say I’ve confidently seen it post 1946. Jerry

A good example of how easy it is to demonstrate non-existent differences by using low resolution photographs, lighting differences and coins of varying degrees of wear across the coins. I am sure that in the hand, or if photographed identically, the dies would be shown to be identical. As for possible ‘missing waves’, maybe but can’t tell from the photo. It is of course possible that this feature occurs on all dates wher the ‘greasing’ of new dies prior to use use took place, I find it hard to consider this a true variety, more akin to a mint error in that the die was not properly de-greased before use. Jerry

True, I was going by the fact he mentions all the rest of the legend on the coin but not that it stated a denomination. That may simply be an omission. Jerry

And I hope nobody is fooled by this one. The description is taken directly from an LCA lot earlier this year (that coin is in my collection). https://www.ebay.com/itm/One-Penny-1862-Rare-Victoria-United-Kingdom-Small-Date-from-Halfpeny-die-Freeman/122843096930?hash=item1c9a04e762:g:4DIAAOSw7z1aIpCI Jerry

FFS, there are some idiots on EBay, and we see this sort of thing time and time again! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rare-minting-mistake-error-1971-new-penny-one-pence-in-1971/182944146337?hash=item2a985223a1:g:iqwAAOSwyP5aJG4i How do they ever work out how to switch their computers on? Jerry

Perhaps a crown, if the legend is as given.? Pics would be nice.

As British coins were current in Australia at that time, it may well be a pocket loss from the early part of the last century. A nice piece of history quite possibly handled by a previous owner of your farm, and well spotted! Jerry

I would say quite rare in decent condition, this is only the second I’ve seen on EBay. LCA has sold several, one of which is in my collection. It would be a single die coin, I would anticipate a Freeman rarity in the mid teens. I think the price reached was a little high given the edge knock and light cleaning, but not extortionate. Jerry

Excellent Pete, that is very good news, I hope you are soon up to full fitness. My poor old Dad (89) has to have a colostomy next week, so yours truly will be spending some time in Aberaeron looking after my memory impaired Mum (86). It’s going to be a stressful time, but hopefully I’ll still make the MCF on 10th for a break! Jerry

You would not have won it if somebody else had placed a bid for £500 or more prior to yours. That seems the most likely to me, but others may know of other possibilities. Jerry

Probably ‘British coin related discussion and enquiries’ or ‘Beginners area’. They will get noticed elsewhere, though , and hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will comment. Jerry

I note you are posting these coins in the ‘Decimal Coins’ section of the forum, they might get wider appreciation elsewhere! Jerry

Your eyesight I’m afraid ? just an assortment of shapes in the wrong place and the wrong size to be an ‘E’. Jerry

He does show it in his last pic, it looks as dubious as everything else in this ad, and of course is completely unattributable to the ‘coin’ in question. Jerry

The main reason you are unsure what is ‘written’ is that you are trying to make sense of shapes and pixels. They are shitty close-ups. (Is ‘shitty’ allowed?) I’m afraid I can again not see any reasonable evidence of lettering. Perhaps I need an imagination implant. Jerry

They were cast in strips in two piece clay moulds. They have a head on one side and charging bull on the other, and quality varies quite a lot. I have a lovely one that I found on a rally in Kent in the 90’s. Jerry

The ‘8’s are not the scarce 1898 font variety, the easiest way to tell those is that the areas enclosed by the loop of the 8’s are circular not oval. Jerry

In fact there were coins minted at Swansea and Cardiff, and Pembroke post 1066 to the Anarchy, possibly also Abergavenny, and of course Aberystwyth under Charles I. My father has a good collection of the latter. The Norman coins are all excessively rare. Jerry

I always have to ponder long and hard over the 1908’s. Is it F166, 2+D? I am happy to be corrected here. Jerry

Some might consider these consequences of die fill and wear significant - the ONF penny being another example, or the 1897 dot - but they are unlikely to be the consequences of a human act on the die, and many would argue they are not therefore true varieties. Personally while of interest, I would not feel they demand a place in my collection. Some might say perhaps the colon was never fully punched. Indeed, but requires a leap of faith as that could never be truly proved, and could only really be considered if uncirculated coins from otherwise unworn dies were available that showed no mark at all. My view anyway. Jerry