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True, I was going by the fact he mentions all the rest of the legend on the coin but not that it stated a denomination. That may simply be an omission. Jerry

And I hope nobody is fooled by this one. The description is taken directly from an LCA lot earlier this year (that coin is in my collection). https://www.ebay.com/itm/One-Penny-1862-Rare-Victoria-United-Kingdom-Small-Date-from-Halfpeny-die-Freeman/122843096930?hash=item1c9a04e762:g:4DIAAOSw7z1aIpCI Jerry

FFS, there are some idiots on EBay, and we see this sort of thing time and time again! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rare-minting-mistake-error-1971-new-penny-one-pence-in-1971/182944146337?hash=item2a985223a1:g:iqwAAOSwyP5aJG4i How do they ever work out how to switch their computers on? Jerry

Perhaps a crown, if the legend is as given.? Pics would be nice.

As British coins were current in Australia at that time, it may well be a pocket loss from the early part of the last century. A nice piece of history quite possibly handled by a previous owner of your farm, and well spotted! Jerry

I would say quite rare in decent condition, this is only the second I’ve seen on EBay. LCA has sold several, one of which is in my collection. It would be a single die coin, I would anticipate a Freeman rarity in the mid teens. I think the price reached was a little high given the edge knock and light cleaning, but not extortionate. Jerry

Excellent Pete, that is very good news, I hope you are soon up to full fitness. My poor old Dad (89) has to have a colostomy next week, so yours truly will be spending some time in Aberaeron looking after my memory impaired Mum (86). It’s going to be a stressful time, but hopefully I’ll still make the MCF on 10th for a break! Jerry

You would not have won it if somebody else had placed a bid for £500 or more prior to yours. That seems the most likely to me, but others may know of other possibilities. Jerry

Probably ‘British coin related discussion and enquiries’ or ‘Beginners area’. They will get noticed elsewhere, though , and hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will comment. Jerry

I note you are posting these coins in the ‘Decimal Coins’ section of the forum, they might get wider appreciation elsewhere! Jerry

Your eyesight I’m afraid ? just an assortment of shapes in the wrong place and the wrong size to be an ‘E’. Jerry

He does show it in his last pic, it looks as dubious as everything else in this ad, and of course is completely unattributable to the ‘coin’ in question. Jerry

The main reason you are unsure what is ‘written’ is that you are trying to make sense of shapes and pixels. They are shitty close-ups. (Is ‘shitty’ allowed?) I’m afraid I can again not see any reasonable evidence of lettering. Perhaps I need an imagination implant. Jerry

They were cast in strips in two piece clay moulds. They have a head on one side and charging bull on the other, and quality varies quite a lot. I have a lovely one that I found on a rally in Kent in the 90’s. Jerry

The ‘8’s are not the scarce 1898 font variety, the easiest way to tell those is that the areas enclosed by the loop of the 8’s are circular not oval. Jerry

In fact there were coins minted at Swansea and Cardiff, and Pembroke post 1066 to the Anarchy, possibly also Abergavenny, and of course Aberystwyth under Charles I. My father has a good collection of the latter. The Norman coins are all excessively rare. Jerry

I always have to ponder long and hard over the 1908’s. Is it F166, 2+D? I am happy to be corrected here. Jerry

Some might consider these consequences of die fill and wear significant - the ONF penny being another example, or the 1897 dot - but they are unlikely to be the consequences of a human act on the die, and many would argue they are not therefore true varieties. Personally while of interest, I would not feel they demand a place in my collection. Some might say perhaps the colon was never fully punched. Indeed, but requires a leap of faith as that could never be truly proved, and could only really be considered if uncirculated coins from otherwise unworn dies were available that showed no mark at all. My view anyway. Jerry

The main designator of the open 3 is that it is open. This is due to the lower curve of the three being much straighter than the normal 3. The bar of the three points much more directly at the 6, and the bar does appear to curve. All these are very obvious in the hand, but much less clear on photos because of lighting and resolution issues. But compared with the examples given above this is clearly not an open 3. Best to look at the whole shape of the digit rather than to try to analyse specific areas, Ebay and many other photos are just not good enough in most cases. Jerry

Easiest at a glance is that the bottom of the ribbon hangs facing outwards (just) rather than pointing downwards. Jerry

Really not too bad, approaching fine. Would have bid into four figures, so a little peeved. He did have a reasonable offer by the look of it though, as it was sold as a bin at £500. Making bin offers to these auctions seems to have become endemic, I think I have to join the crowd. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GB-1D-1881H-VICTORIA-BUN-COPPER-47C-BY-COINMOUNTAIN-/382268761123?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=B5h3PvKqT3%252FWuBUFtwQ%252Fe7T12A0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc Jerry

The first images he showed were of an 1860 mule toothed/ beaded penny, but the obverse was Freeman G, which wasn’t used until 1861. He had obviously mixed his images. In fact his 1870 had the beaded obverse. He has now been informed, and added the correct obverse image. He did meantime get a couple of bidders though. A bit of a penny thing. Did anyone see the F103 1881H early obverse penny that was on the bay last night, but pulled this morning, and sold (still much too cheaply) as a bin, presumably after behind the scenes discussions? I am going to have to start doing this, I have seen a couple of real rarities pulled in this way recently. Jerry

This one could catch some-one out. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bun-Head-Penny-1860-Beaded/122793415080?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 I did a double take, before I realised it couldn’t exist. He also has an impossible 1870 penny, which does clarify the situation. ? Jerry PS I see he has now corrected the listing, shame, I was hoping for a bit of fun.

There is a Pac-Man on the chest too. Jerry

Don't forget this thread is for NON British coins, there is another one for UK coins. But both nice coins above. Jerry