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Is that the o/o sideways in carolo?

What do you think of this sixpence guys? Doesn't sit right with me. Legend is all over the place mixed fonts. hair looks wrong https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Great-Britain-1878-Six-Pence-XF-Nice-751-1-IR8623/162946101170

Well I see 2 variations but weather they are the official ones. the Angle on the H of Elizabeth favours the left upright whereas on the 2nd coin it is dead center of the H. Same for the OMN The M on first coin favours the center of the M and the 2 nd coin is closer to the right upright if that makes sense but defo different legend positions

certainly was. I thought the obverse was going to be a dog and compared to the other 3 coins he had I was pleasantly surprised. Doesn't happen very often but very grateful when it does

I post them on this one because it actually was my latest acquisition as were all those coins previous. Probably should of put the 1909 Half crown on acquisition of the week as it was a great buy. But there are so many threads and pages it is easier to put them all where I know they are. Also I might find something else worthy of the A.O.T.W. Then I would have 2. Plus there are Penny threads and had it been a Penny it might well of gone on there. Gets a little confusing with all the mini threads lol

It should weigh 38 grams 35 mm and 4.4 mm depth

you will find a lot of these foreign copies in big mixed lots they are specifically used to draw the punters in. Making you think you have a potential bargain. They know exactly what they are doing and it is the easiest way to get them floating around the marketplace. lately it seems we cannot turn left or right and the forgers are already there and getting better and better. If I have said it once I have said it a hundred times the line should be drawn now and any fantasy/replica coins have to carry R or Copy or be illegal to sell. And thethird party sites like ebay should be stung with massive fines for complicity to exact fraud as this is basically what they are doing

I don't like to be a doom slayer but look at the position of the P of Portugal It shouldn't be at the front of the head?

My bad sorry mate must be either one of krauses famous fopars or a jeckyl perhaps?

yours is the KM#370 JOANNES VI.D.G. the KM#365 is JOANNES.D.G. and the KM#371 has a different globe same as the 345.1

Thanks yes I was looking at the higher side of GVF if the I and P had been full then defo an EF . Actually its nicer than the pic. My cam shots in daylight for some reason are so much worse than at night. Perhaps due to light being more focused on the subject at night?

Really pleased with this . thought it was going to be a dog but pleasantly surprised. Much better grade than I thought it was. Almost a serious coin

I pushed on a stage further and left the coin submerged for 2 hours not expecting any real difference but I guess it was a small gain. It is practice to try and use locally on a said verdigris spot or area. Obviously results may and will vary dependent on the metal composition Brass being the hardiest . So whilst a small improvement on those metal based coins might not be the same for copper and bronze. If a valuable coin has a verdigris spot I don't see it as detrimental to try and remove it with the less invasive method possible and it certainly isn't with cleaning the coin to look something it isn't . It is to stop the ruin of a good coin by a progressive fungal invader. It is just at the moment all products on the market are so harsh on the metals it is almost impossible not to do more harm than good. So looking at the other end of the question how can TPG remove this parasite and label it conservation yet we try to do the same and get details grade?

Almost bought one last week £100 . ummed and arred and decided to stick to my main area of focus errors and varieties. was a bargain though tbh.

Totally agree. My first £200 spent were on books. Without the knowledge you would be walking into a minefield . Plus they contain great pictures and what to look for . Always ask here if you have any questions or are unsure of something. There are probably some of the most knowledgeable in the coin world on this forum (excluding me of course)

All I remember was they weren't all D.F.I as that was what people were asking did anyone check anything to see if they were genuine?

Makes you wonder if those so called hoard of 1841 half pennies are all legit?

I am thinking because these are so good perhaps someone is taking a plaster or rubber mold of a coin and making dies from those.Would take a lot of skill though I would of thought?

Welcome to the forum. A very nice coin . I think I shall move to the states Spinks have that W.W incuse on truncation @ £450 in VF. Nice find

Well I have let them all know those that have them for sale. I guess it is up to them what they do with the information

It is a fantasy coin retail of £5.49 . I have seen 6 on the bay ranging from £50-£250 some with bidders. I feel like I should put them wise as they all look like reputable sellers if there is such a thing on the bay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FANTASY-COIN-1818-King-George-III-Half-Crown-1-2-NOVELTY-Coin-UK-dark-colour/173124271826

It is the coin up top on my first post and it looks like it is now confirmed that it is a fake as it has the same dent in the forehead and the 2 die breaks above PE of PENSE. This particular coin according to derek was struck with the wrong die orientation and was 0.5g underweight. The worrying thing is it fooled the auctioneers. So without these markers more could slip past. Also begs the question how many have already been purchased as genuine. Lets hope none of you guys have any in your collections

There is also 1860 HALP for HALF Penny although not listed

Yes the post was by Derek Allen sozz my bad

Thought I would put this here seeing as it is to do with cleaning. I am trying some less invasive methods of cleaning but I am not convinced anything has altered. Although the one thing that has stayed the same is the integrity of the surface as in it still looks uniform in appearance and not washed out like they normally do. Can you see any difference from the initial untouched coin the before treatment and the last coin which was a second stage application or repeat process after was 5 mins and after that was 10 mins. I only used lemon juice for the acidity bicarb soda as an agitant and pure olive oil as a surface protection or lubricant. Weather all combined they had the desired effect I am not sure. I think it would be ok if the surface was just dusty as the juice isn't strong enough to penetrate the natural patina at short duration but for substantial staining and verdigris removal it's not potent enough. So a work in progress