zookeeperz

Fake fake fake. as for the 1971 penny guy. I requested he do the human race a favour and terminate his auction before the police come banging on his door for attempting to solicit Funds through deception. What ever that means I aint got a clue heard it in a film sounded good so went with it lmao

Probably fake news again . the Sun online or the Mail online. Neither have anything to do with the real newspapers

NGC has them @ $9 in MS63 lol keep up lads for god sake haha

My money is on 1898 Penny has same legend and they were probably carried back and forth to Oz

You got a great deal there MB you paid £50 for coins worth 11p? . OUCH!!!!

Could it be that due to the inherent problems with striking b- metal coins and now a 12 sided one they may have broken dies or used more of them than they thought they would . Also if something was causing a problem they could of slightly altered the design to see if it had the desired effect. Every pound coin I have has something wrong with it. Be it a design flaw or extra metal.

Could it be the VIP case?

Shocking . Well more fool the nuggets that bid on modern replica's. It isn't as if there is no images on the site to compare with all they needed to do was this

Found a nicer version of 1937 reverse B Two shillings Arrived just now. Nicer in hand scopes really struggle on larger coins

I saw one like this not sure if it is exactly the same but looks like it could be missing 2 trays?

Lols love it it is a "rare Copy" of a copy absolute gem . That has tickled me

Or INATENT ?

Looks very much like an ex mount probably why it looks better was protected by the broach pin? Are the arches supposed to be that big at the bottom? look like tidal waves

Rule of thumb guys rule of thumb

Lucky sod I fell asleep waiting for that . Good job Oh you was outbid

I know I see a lot of things on coins that well could be something or could be nothing. For me that's the exciting part as was with this coin. 1959 Irish Halfcrown Is one of my favourite Coin designs. Now I know the pic is of a horrible colour but then again how many are not? that being said and I just put it down to bad lighting and the wrong use of correction tools. Looking beyond all that I notice a PM mint mark high above the tail of the horse along with the normal one below the line under the back hooves. The coin arrives and suddenly that PM is no longer there. Kind of annoying if it was done on purpose deceive but possibly due to the picture being so horrible in colour a double exposure of some kind?

Which was the point of my slightly ranted post I have had some unsavoury dealings with them. Your coins are always under graded for the sole reason it makes their higher grades worth more. The conflict of interest is massive. They grade the coins so they know exactly what they own against the market coins. They then auction the coins and bid on them leaving out a lot of descriptions as to what is in the lots. I know from first hand twice they stitched me up. then they sell the coins after grading them. You only need look at coins of similar appearance in their auctions and head scratch how on earth the grade is so far apart. Simple fact is all our raws will be under graded and they will try to purchase them. Whilst the coins of theirs will be given higher grades . I do not think any company should have that much influence over the industry. To be quite frank they have us by the balls and the whole collecting fraternity by the throat.

The coin on the left is unc and the coin on the right is VF. Both LCA coins. And I am sorry but I fail to see the grades of either. Especially the VF that's just a mickey take. If I sent that coin in and it came back VF I would personally drive down to CGS and ram it down their throats. I suspect as there are 2 of these coins so called UNC are their own raws. As other examples which a much better quality do not even get to GEF

i'll tell you after you give your guess on what you think each coin grades at.

I went by what was in Davids book . The only thing is with the coin pictured It has both characteristics of obv 1 I of Elizabeth to gap First A in Gratia to Gap bit has obverse 2 marker on I of DEI as it points to a tooth rather than a gap?

Did you find many 1999 with a inherent strike flaw in front of Elizabeth's Nose spreading across to the rim? the flaws are on the cheek ,behind the head and the truncation. Identical in every way.

From your picture that is 1+A I of elizabeth to space between teeth . Davies says this die pairing on the Proof is unconfirmed

Ok chaps Guess the grades This should be fun

I have seen it so many times if you listen to the auctions very carefully you can even hear the conversations between the auctioneer and room bidders. Even if you bid 500 as your max he will say to the interested party" bid £500 and that will clear my commissions" (they don't like these bids too much hard work). It negates the who bid first rule because you will never know anyway. And he probably nudge nudge wink wink'd a deal . Most of them are there every auction. Old pals act. Internet bidders are a faceless entity . Far easier to get paid there and then than to email internet bidders with all the spiel . Just creates more of a paper trail. If proof is in the eating of the pudding the only two bids I left I lost with the exact same price as the winning bid. Every coin I bid on live and won . I won no problems. I will never leave bids again.

Wow that is right up my street Very very nice Rob. Lock it away I am thinking of becoming a cat burglar