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British Silver coins by Peter J Davies Since 1816 Covers all the Silver and cupro coins right up until 1980. It's a must have book for the early years. I don't know of any others for that era.

So they are saying they know they have less than genuine members? lol

First 3 sales all in a line http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-12-Sided-1-One-Pound-Coin-2016-Error-Release-Date-Rare-/192332915700 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-Guy-Fawkes-2-Coin-Two-Pound-2005-Royal-Mint-Error-Pemember-Pemember-/272727763624 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-New-12-Sided-1-pound-coin-Dated-2016-Mint-Error-Centre-Out-/112553766698 you can find hundreds like this. It wouldn't be so bad if nobody bought them . I guess they still are under the illusion joe public is honest lol

You know the most worrying thing of all. This now the norm for fakebay . I see a less than rosey future if they don't do something to police their site. And despite the buyer guarantee spiel it's going through that process that takes an age. The why do I have to wait a month for my money the seller closed his account ? why are you trying to contact him? he doesn't exist. Even if you phone to speak to someone they have a bot on every call trained to answer every question except the one you're asking. With the inevitable do you wish to return to the menu? You can contact us via the help section bla bla bla. run by doogooders who have jack to do with bloody paypal lol

Have I missed something or is this total BS the 1950 Belgie rev is rare km#141.1 what the hell is KM#13b.1 when it's at home. Must be a error surely lol. this is what I mean with online auctions. this particular one is full of misquotes on coin rarities like there is an 1878 florin in good grade £100-£200 Now unless I made a mistake the 1878 NDN 48 arcs is supposed to exist and is rare. but the 1878 42 arcs with die number only the proof is rare and that coin isn't a proof. https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/james-and-son-auctioneers/catalogue-id-srjam10091/lot-608a9502-78de-472a-a0fc-a80b0091c3f3

Yes but surely I should know before I purchase what the cost is and not find out once i have paid?

I tell you who flouting the law these gaming companies with electronic sales Now I am not sure how the law stands but I am pretty sure you have to state vat inc or exc on sales. The gaming companies for example say I want to buy 150 gold for a game will have a price list. 150 gold @$2.99 So you would expect to be charged roughly £2.50. But they charge £3.10. I don't know who does their conversion rate but he needs sacking. No mention of this sale is exc of vat. I think that is breaking the law ?

I think we are call between a rock and a hard place. Alternative is go through main auction sales and be whacked all over the shop for commission, vat, what I don't understand that if you're selling an item you pay vat and if you're buying an item you pay vat. 2 vat commissions on 1 item surely that is wrong? Shop seller would decide off his own back weather he would include vat in his pricing or swallow it to increase sales. But that is a voluntary decision made by him. How do auctioneers get to slam Vat twice for 1 item or is that the Govt again using double taxation laws? Come to think of it the auctioneers are on a good thing. 20% hammer price for both seller and buyer they get 40% of the value of the item they don't own. Some sleeping partner that is lol

No nor me lols but last bill was for 2.42 and only sold 16 quids worth so it seems to fit that 15% bracket. if it is nobody said anything.

Has ebay increased its commission from 10%-15% now?

How does he get traffic through to look at it lol. Hardly search terms you would use to look at coins. "What is it" lols

Also why should my coin worth £2000 cost more to grade than a coin worth £200. Are they telling me by default that they don't really look at lower value coins or they somehow have a different grading system for expensive coins? That side of grading is a rip off and just to pad the TPG wallets . A coin is a coin is a coin grading process is the same . The value of the coin is for my benefit not for some hoody disguised as a TPG to add an imaginary cost on top. Outrageous

I like it as well don't leave the cabinet door unlocked . I always steered away from them because of the weak strikes and the shallow design features. But when you get one like that and I guess it was an early struck coin Lovely crisp lines then they are a joy to have. With the focus always on the 1905-08-09 the other dates can be sourced at much less than they should be. I think all UNC florins of edward are scarce

I thought it also looked like it might with a stretch be 3/5 Is what is making the 3 look like its pointing horizontal and there are two finishing points on the tail and an extended top part behind the where the right top edge starts but prob just my eyes playing tricks

Just testing. 3 too far away. strange shape though top very short

Is it, is it? Come on don't sit on the fence you know it is but seriously is this one ?

Yes I reckon they would probably die before they got totally sloshed

What about the poor old threepence a reverse design that lasted how many monarchs? William IV through to george V . Now that is iconic Definitely cartwheel tuppence Just always makes my mind wander to the time and who would be carrying these around Same can be said for any of the gothic florins. I believe our most iconic and probably the greatest coin design we have had St george sovereign just as classy and what better icon to be used than the great St george our flag bearer Also I believe the old penny again it matters not from what era of milled coins from George III onwards despite it's weight changes and slightly smaller diameters the Penny was huge. Any overseas visitor right up to decimalisation would associate blighty with the big penny I am going to sneak in the sixpence that funny old 2 1/2 pence anything that was given 2 nicknames "The Bender" and most recognised as "The tanner" deserves iconic status and this little description for one so small clearly was held with the highest regard by the british public Bender – A sixpence was known as a bender because due to its silver content it could be bent in the hands. This was commonly done to create ‘love tokens’, many of which survive in collections to this day. The value of a sixpence was also enough to get thoroughly inebriated as taverns would often allow you to drink all day for tuppence. This gave rise to the expression ‘Going on a bender’. Says it all lol Tanner – this alternative name for the sixpence probably dates from the early 1800s and seems to have its root in the Romany gypsy ‘tawno’ which means ‘small one’. I am less convinced about the latter's. Description more likely something to do with the tannery where the leather goods were sourced. Perhaps it cost a sixpence for a pair of shoes or a leather belt . I just can't get the leap of faith from tawno to tanner . Chalk and cheese imo And a tradition still used to this day even though the coins have long since gone was to put a sixpence in the xmas pudding . Finders keepers. The high society actually use gold ones. Nice little side earner again for the RM

But it must work as I saw this 1935 rocking horse crown listed on there £150 1 left 1 sold. Seriously you cannot give them away for £20 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1935-Great-Britain-Crown-Jubilee-Incuse-Edge-Lettering-NGC-MS64-/322501153304

I feel the price must be in error . Why on earth would you send that to be slabbed.? Surely money already lost on that deal. I said How much? $12 deal $154 no deal I'll keep my box thanks http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1889-GREAT-BRITAIN-SILVER-CROWN-VG-DETAILS-NGC-GRAFFITI-VICTORIA-GEORGE-DRAGON-/201832712464

Actually I am even toying with the idea of slabbed coins for the simple reason NGC and PCGS have a habit of mis-identifying English coins or put it more simply they don't care. They are very old school and if it is a well known variety it will go on the ticket if it isn't or is a new variety your 50/50 weather they will record it. Which is a massive plus for UK slab buyers. I just bought an MS64 BN 1916 Penny NGC slabbed. It turns out the didn't identify it as a recessed ear even though it has the broken tooth after BRITT identifier. So you could call it a win win :). I am not against TPG's when I am buying just when submitting and I think that is probably the case for most

Maybe it once was but I fear a long long long time ago http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/George-1921-Penny-UNC/192335028125

Which was my initial take on him calling it white metal. which was and has been used in many auctions not so much for coins but items of old silver without hallmarks or white gold etc . Termed white metal as opposed to base metal. But Again if I had seen the coin at the auction I never would of bid for it. As soon as i opened the package I saw straight away it was a jeckle. Auctioneers if they are going to go down this road of online sales then they must make it as transparent as they do for their land based auctions. My only safeguard is the auction house supplying me with a decent set of pictures rather like heritage does and a clear description of the coin or coins. At the moment catalogues are far too stacked with far away images and usually just one side. They cannot use the argument they don't have time to take pics for all of them because if they do not have the time they have no business selling them. After all they for the most part are our eyes and ears in online auctions. What was the most annoying aspect was his answers Rob. "I never said it was authentic I merely stated it was white metal. " Which clearly stated he knew full well it wasn't. Again I bought a lot unseen purely by the description of the auctioneer "Ex collection lot of Victorian pennies very useful lot " £100-£200 Box arrives with about 50 victorian pennies none graded higher than fair no key dates no varieties. £300 for a £10 box of toot. Unless someone had taken all the good coins out before posting them as I was an absentee bidder and there was no picture associated with the sale. London coin auctions consigned my coins to them twice. Recommended not to put a reserve on them . There was 6 years worth of collecting in there Irish coins including 2 mules . unlisted coins and over dates. 87kg yes I know a bit of a hoarder lol . Nothing was mentioned in the catalogue apart from mainly base metal types some irish and 20 1912-H pennies varies grades to EF. No silver mentioned nor the silver crowns. There was easily £6000 without attributing the unlisted coins. I didn't even get scrap value back. Excuse was "sometimes niche buyers are looking for certain items and don't like large lots" BS then split the bloody lots up. it only went as one lot on their recommendation 2nd time was exactly the same . I should of learned from the first time but I used to be far more trusting. I have my own idea as to why but that is only speculation on my part. But for the most part I don't trust any of them. To them it is one item in a sale. To me or any vendor it is a lifes work and should be treated as such and not sold short with most of the best items left out of descriptions.

Unless you send them to CGS then that book gets thrown out of the window. Which personally I find kind of over authoritarian in the fact that if there has been a recognised grading practice per say which has a common agreement . Well loosely within 1/2 a grade for many many years. What right does a said entity have to completely rewrite the whole grading formula. The gap between UNC-VF in CGS is miniscule. You can look at coins a pretty much put them in a grade bracket. but if you try with CGS coins you would be a mile off. Too me they are over reaching. Is it a good or bad thing . Commercially for them I guess it is. Less top end coins graded better price to sell. Already this morning I have seen CGS coin with wrong variety attributed to it. Now weather that is CGS itself or a misquote by the seller Jury is out. But once again there should be a point of reference to look up these coins before purchase and make sure esp in this case as it is a lot of £ difference

No not necessarily Medals can be struck in many metals and many are from lead,pewter,gun metal,silver,bronze,copper,gold. Just about anything. Seller has high reputation(not that that says much these days). I would research a little and find what these were struck in. The description is non deceptive as in the seller isn't calling it something it isn't. Best thing you have done is ask the question I am sure one of the experts will point you in the right direction. That's above my pay grade