zookeeperz

I am amazed I typed in £1 error in the listings and was returned 41,965 hits. I think that says it all about ebay policing policy. I'll take the 965 as a realistic figure

You will enjoy this. I got so fed up with seeing New £1 error misprint 2017 dated with wrong date 2016 I had to contact a few of the sellers and politely educate them some of the replies made me laugh. Did this guy contradict himself by saying he is not a scammer? What a lovely person you are! This advert was created when on the day of the release when I got 10 of them, I read only a few days prior that a "few" (200,000) coins had be "misprinted" with the date 2016, as it was released a while ago yes it turns out the media was wrong there are millions of these however does that make me a scammer, it's an advert, you don't have to buy!As your the only busy body to "report" the add I highly doubt eBay will be bothered.Forgot The ad was there! Bet your glad you wasted your time letting me know! Spent 7 off them and sold 3 for £150 each you ain t burst no bubble ? YOU: Not rare not misprinted. All were dated 2016 just the release date was in 2017. Sorry to burst the bubble If he knew and he did that the information was wrong yet he still selling the coin @ £150 I think scammer befits his title I kept the most colourful parts of the convo out as there could be young eyes reading lol

That oxfam sale i posted a few days ago. the vendor contacted me and even after I explained about New and two penny coins. He said "well I was going by ebay prices some are over £200 I just went in with a reasonable figure" £21 for a 1971 or 81 I forget which reasonable? lols. I should of said check the sold button and look. But then again some poor sod probably got conned out of his hard earned. So it seems now charity shops have joined the rogue element of coin selling. What next the church? lol

you hit the nail on the head

Notice the edge photo's are slightly less focused and are bite marks all around it. Plus taken from the shallowest angle. This guy is a pictorial genius as in he knows what too and how to hide . Why no normal image?. Colour is just wrong if that is the normal colour. I think there should be a rule for pictures I think we all are fed up with the blurr,blob, photo shopped jobs?

57000 sales it's a disgrace ebay covers up all their bogus and shifty deals

How do these people maintain 99.8% feedback ratings when they try to fleece people with garbage like this VF at best . Seriously £671 lmao http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRITANNIA-GEORGIUS-III-D-G-REX-COPPER-CARTWHEEL-TWO-PENCE-COIN-1797-/182826539731

Downloaded it. Jesus im totally lost. No idea what to do. I'll pass lols

It's ok for me all pages are fine including census report

I would ask for his address and talk to him face to face. I bet he declines that offer as well . The oldest trick in the book. Use a picture of a proof coin which he probably stole from another site and send a crappy substandard coin in the post. Had same thing happen to me 3 times. But the pics were bad and the coins were worse

Bought this a few days ago just waiting for it to arrive through the post. Not listed as far as I am aware. Anyone have 1? 1864 Half Penny stop between H and A and it is a very prominent stop as well. Makes up for some indifferent buys lately

Now here is another anomaly It would appear that there are different types if we take the coin in the picture above to be the true open 3. This style is completely different to the known open 3's that have sold on LCA. Notice that the LCA coins the 3 is much more Squat but yet the forum coin open 3 is more open than the true open 3 and this does not have anything missing or any die fills. So again begs the question are we tied to thinking there is only 1 type or is it the case which I feel is obvious there are two different font 3's at least used and this variety appears on both? I notice also both LCA coins have overhang at the back of the 3 at top right

Very true. I just noticed on the bottom pic the "open" 3 pic there is a very thin die crack running through the angle of the downstroke. Could that make it appear to be a curve rather than a normal 3 with a kink in it?

sorry didn't see your reply lol rob

I'll use simple logic. Just because all the known open 3's have for want of a word share the same characteristics and when described in all of LCA "the downward stroke curves" as opposed to a normal 3 downward stroke is straight. However why was it called an open 3 to start with? Obviously because the tip of the downward stroke in relation to the bottom curved serif at its extremity or the "gape" between two fixed points. I have until that ebay coin like most of us only seen two types the traditional gape which has an over exaggerated bottom half moon curve leaving a small gape and the open 3 with the wider gape and curved downstroke. But here's the thing it's open because of the gape and the ebay coin has the largest gape of all so whilst it might not be the traditional open 3 it still warrants inclusion as either a new style of open 3,Short serif at the bottom 3 or the open 3 we are only recognising becomes irrelevant ?. Say I owned that coin and I sent it to be classified and I already owned an open 3 and I can clearly see that the ebay coin is far more open than the one I have the true open 3 as we know of at the moment. If they just graded it as a normal 3 I would be pretty ticked off. If it's more open regardless of what the downstroke looks like it's open. Pretty much black or white. Call it a subvariety if you will but for all intent of purpose is it not an open 3? The logical argument says it is just a different style

Actually to be fair the Top coin from ebay is more open than the open 3 . I would say a subvariety . Otherwise you can't call an open 3 an open 3 . Just throwing it in the mix

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1863-Penny-Open-3-Very-rare-in-any-grade-/292269688927 Is this an open 3 ? I thought the downstroke was supposed to be curved? Or is this a slender 3 The bottom serif is short of where it should be?

I wonder if this is his mate lol http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/default-world-war-1-lord-kitchener-/122748409985 Did he mean Faulty?

And furthermore Do you not think it is a conflict of interest to be 1. The auction house that sells the coins (also means gets to see every lot to cherry pick if desired) Not saying that is the case though. 2. To also be the sole grading house for the UK. 3 To actively sell the same coins your grading as a business venture. There is some sticky ground that could be open to abuse. Coins could be under graded As they sell for profit. If a similar coin is available by a 3rd party at a higher grade it means they won't sell theirs. Again I am being devils advocate I would hope they are honest johns. But this day and age nothing surprises me.

But they have 3 graders that have to come to an agreement. Surely they all can't be blind lol. If you look on london coin auctions at the slabbed CGS coins that are graded 75 and 78 some of them are not even as good as the two above . I totally agree that their grading criteria is very harsh. After all we have people who wrote books on grading. If you were to apply the british grading standards we would be at the same point the USA TPG V CGS cross over is. And who is it that made them God almighty in the grading world. Obviously if they can't get it right then they should go by the book and leave well alone. Or maybe they only grade coins they bought raw to sell higher?

Well if they are going to grade coins like this and give them both the same grade I wouldn't go near them.Both attributed EF60. I can't fathom the vast difference between the grades. Anyone?

Wow that must be the finest know surely? Be worth an absolute fortune . I am drooling fantastic coin I looked on London coin auctions and the finest they have ever seen was VF/GVF and that sold for £1500

Yes I find it rather a flippant attitude taken by some that certain dates will be vastly overdone with date widths when it's obvious some are exactly the same. Yet others get a foot-note can be seen wide narrow high or low. I guess it depends on how many you stock perhaps

Likewise Terry. I was trying to post an email convo I had with CGS back when they first started in 2007 but am unable too . Not sure if its because its too long or there might be characters that this site doesn't recognise. Shame really it makes good reading. I believe I was the major instigator in changing the way CGS graded variety coins. They were of the opinion that only those printed in the books should be categorised . After a few blurts of who do you think you are and your opinion means nothing. you are paid to do a service and to note differences no matter what they are. That is how varieties started in the first place. The collector deems weather he will purchase a coin for a whole number of different reasons and being a different type of the same coin being one of them. They countered with it makes no monetary difference. I then pointed them to two coins selling on ebay An unc coin and a EF same date but with a 8/8 lower and the EF coin sold x3 the amount. So I said there your argument is total nonsense. They decided to change how they graded coins and to attribute varieties as they occur and as you probably know they have the most extensive list of varieties for British coins anywhere. Only prob is you have to pay £90 for the pleasure of viewing the info.£500 I spent to grade coins and most came back with no explanation as to why and the coins that I wanted attributed I knew would only be details grading but I wanted them on record. In fairness they did offer to regrade all my coins again at no cost but I was so annoyed I couldn't be bothered to wait another 3 months to get them back lol.

If it were me and that's only because I laugh in the face of danger (not) I'd be loading the van with shovels as we speak