terrysoldpennies

What Jerry and Rob have said is true, I think the 1897 was included by Freeman because the dot was large, perfectly spherical, and set in a position which looked as though I was placed there deliberately . I have many dot / Comer pennies all unlisted, but most are of little interest as they do not significantly increase the appeal of the coin. Terry

Some of you my not have seen this Reverse. Its the Mints example of a pattern reverse, its mono faced and was made for the reverse of the Edward viii penny, but was rejected, probably because the Battleship was considered to Imperial , I only Know of one example in a private collection. Terry

Penny Acquisition of the year for me , just in time for Christmas. f164a Terry

Fantastic sunset just now.

He must have use his metal detector , in a Chinese takeaway.

Right Pete , ill book both of us down for the London Marathon Next year, !!!!!!! Terry

Not necessarily better , just a greater contrast between the two surfaces, and it is after all just a matter of personal taste.

Welcome to the Forum, its a very useful link with the staged comparison pictures. Terry

Unless they continue to use an old proof die, for circulation coins, the first few would look pretty good. Terry

I found this , thought it was interesting. https://www.thespruce.com/cameo-cam-definition-768528

This is the 1967 with the extremely elongated colons. Terry

This is not an 1882 its an 1862 penny as it has an obverse 6 only used up to 1874 . Terry https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Great-Britain-1882-NO-H-One-Penny-Queen-Victoria-HOLLED-NO-RESERVE/272917120131?hash=item3f8b20c483:g:iVIAAOSw5gFZdPkn

I think this may have been caused by a small piece of metal getting itself pressed with part of the obverse image, then being flipped over to face the other way up on top of the next blank about to be pressed, the two pieces of metal,[ the blank and the smaller piece of metal ] were then pressed together ,this would give the brockage, but only over the area where the smaller piece of metal had been. The two pieces of metal must then have parted company , leaving the blank, now a coin looking like yours. Terry

Yes it is . Terry

Just seen this on Ebay, He's showing a genuine known 1933, pic https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-1933-penny/202093087478?hash=item2f0dafcaf6:g:3IQAAOSw8UZZ8SVx

One other identifier is the sea to the right of the coin which touches onto the tooth on the E , but on the D it is to a gap between the teeth.

The P in PENNY on the 2+e points to the tooth, but there is a tiny edge knock , all the other 1909s I have the P point just to the right of the tooth. Terry

Hi , below is my 2+e 1909, as you said the 1 in date should be directly over the tooth, but also the right side down stroke of the N in ONE should point to the gap between the teeth. Terry

It looks to me like its the result of two tiny dents , raising the metal up slightly between them, giving the impression that the two ends of the E are joined.

Hi Gaz and welcome, Have you any great finds to show us . Terry

This is a strange one, colons like this are known and listed for some pennies in 1860 and 1861, but are all to be found on Freeman 4+d [gouby G+d] coins , and all are thought to have been made from a batch of dies made without colons in this position ,and then being etched into the die by hand ,there by making the position of the colons vary from one die to the next , this though is an 1873 , and along with all pennies made between 1863 to 1873 is a Freeman 6+g [Gouby J+g]. Until now all seemed to have had the normal width colons, most coins having colons pointing towards the gap, but with a few having them rotated partly onto the tooth. I notice though that the replacement 1874 F7 obverse has the colons rotated to point towards the tooth, but are still of the normal width. Terry

I can't discern any difference between it and any of the other ribbons , it looks more offset in the picture I know, but as you can see there's a small scratch across the end of the ribbon , and I think it has very slightly damaged it . Terry

1873 penny

Normal colons and rotated normal width colons.

What ever happened to the saying ''The customer is always right'' ?. As to date widths , as you say, its often so obvious a difference that can stand out a mile, but there, it takes all types to make a world. Did you see the picture I posted of the different 1861 penny dates, well they certainly can vary dramatically , as the narrowest date one I showed has the 1 almost climbing on top of the 6, and as to how a date type like that cannot be seen as interesting and desirable beats me. Well soldier on Terry