terrysoldpennies

Hi Ian , Its possibly caused by one of the workers at the Mint accidently dropping the die onto its face creating three tiny dents, which when reversed onto the coin would show as three spikes . Terry

Hi Looking at the pictures you have shown, I note that the one on the left is not completely circular , and that the top right side of the coin is some what straighter than on the right side coin . In fact the one on the right seems wider across the middle of the coin than it is from top to bottom. this I think may account for the different shape at the back of Victorias head. Also the left coin seems to have a weaker image than the right coin, as there is a larger bare patch below the bust , possibly due to die ware , and the high part of the die, [ i e what shows as the field on the coin], has possible been re-polished serving to reduce the depth of that part of the die which gives the queens head. At the same time may be retooling took place to parts of the die , and may be to the rose. just my thoughts, possibly a load of tosh Terry

Just seen this one on Ebay !!! the long teeth show its a Reproduction 33 , and he found it in Norfolk http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONE-PENNY-METAL-DETECTOR-FIND-1933-King-GEORG-IVS-VERY-RARE-ONLY-8-Known-MADE-/182785889026?hash=item2a8ee35302:g:Jy4AAOSw5ShZx7SC

That's fantastic Richard , I missed that one. Terry

Hi Barnzy , Welcome to the forum, It seems to me that most collectors stick to year sets of just say, Bronze or Silver or in all the denominations, but restrict their sets overall parameters to say, Victorian or 20th c or Hammered , milled, Pre Decimal , Decimal etc . Or, as I do, to mostly one or two denominations , in my case mostly Pre. Decimal Pennies which seems to have the most diverse number of varieties , with 1860 alone having over 80 known types . Some are caused by the mint experimenting with different dies , some caused by human error , such as over stamping, and there are also errors caused by die deterioration. New undiscovered types are still turning up today, and its possible for anyone with a sharp eye to come up with another. If though you decide to collect modern decimal coins , most of the differing types are deliberately made by the mint to be scarce, so as to encourage people to collect them. What ever you go for it can be an addictive hobby, and you my find that an increasing amount of money has to be spent to obtain that elusive sought after coin . Terry

How about this one then !!!!!! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1897-DOT-Victoria-Penny-coin-W1897a-Fair-F147-O-NE-very-RARE-/142486494758?hash=item212cdb5e26:g:fpYAAOSwIaFZMHCI

Link to Richards site http://www.headsntails14.wordpress.com/ look under Victoria reverses 1860 .

It is a 6+G

I wondered if that was you bidding Richard. Nice buy , they seem to be pretty scarce. Terry

Thanks Pete . Terry

Pete, to your knowledge have any 1860 2*+ d pennies been slabbed , as with more VIGTORIA pennies popping up all the time, I have been surprised not to have seen any more 2*+d's turning up than the existing 5 already known. Terry

Wow, you could power the British economy on that many Farts. Terry

That's a really good point Pete, so I've had another good look, and there's no sign of any doubling at all . The only thing I can think of is that during the finishing off at the top of the die, the action of machining across the die, may have elongated the tiny holes, creating long colons radiate outwards from the centre. ??? The doubling of the letters in the picture is just a reflection . Terry

The normal colons found on 1960s pennies are round, but a few I have found have an oval shape. So far, I have only found them on 1965s 66s and on 1967s, with the most extreme example being on the 1967 shown below. The oval types are fairly scarce, but as far as I can tell the elongated 1967 must be rare, as no other penny found by me was anywhere near as long. I'm lost as to what may cause this to occur, but I think it must be something during the manufacturing process , as It seems very unlikely that its a design change from the normal round colons. Terry

As a matter of interest Bernie, how much were they asking for the Edward viii penny back in the 1960s ? Terry

The two coins you show are half crowns which were worth 2 shillings and six pence . Terry

OOps sorry lads I thought most of you would have one, but I must say when a bid is placed so early on, it attracts attention anyway.

Congratulations to both you young fellers . I have five with one up to 17, born Jan 2nd 2000 just missed millennium day. Terry

It could be this Mick http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1911-One-Penny-Georgivs-V-Nice-Coin-Take-a-look-1-/252978713731?hash=item3ae6b4d483:g:yV4AAOSwfRdZErPV GoubyX. Terry

1901 narrow date penny 10.5 tooth. Gouby Aa he didn't even have a picture to show in his book. I picked one up last week after looking for about a year, unfortunately its only about VG, but at least I do now have one. Its obviously rare, but just how rare, do any of you know as it never seems to come up on here ? Terry

Now I guess your all going to think i'm a lying towrag , but during the 1960s I was given some change in a shop , some pennies, I think a trupenny bit and a shilling, I can't now even remember what I bought , but when I looked down at the shilling, I thought it was old, now at the time I was about 12 so lots of the coins to me were very old , as pre decimal coinage was still in use going right back to Queen Victoria. Well the coin had a hole in it , and was indeed old as it was dated 1696 with a king I did not recognise . I guess it was used by mistake. The shilling is still in my collection, though not readily to hand , as I collect pennies. Terry

Above the the DG the outer line is doubled , I don't think a proof would look like that Terry

I bought this from a friend a while back, who is a collector, but not of pennies. I guess its about GF which for this rare type seems to be exceptional . In all the years I've been collecting the only better one I've seen is Garys [Bronze & Copper on here]. its strange that this type seems prone to wearing badly in the centre of the Kings head.

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