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terrysoldpennies

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  1. Hi . its about three differing aspects to be found on 1889 pennies ,and which of the three are to be found together with each other . The three are :- the two established obverse die types, one with 15 leaves in Victorias hair, the other with 14 . Secondly some coins have REG with the R almost joined to the E , the other has a clear gap between the R and E. And lastly the six differing date widths , five shown in ALFNAILS picture, plus the new 14 tooth date width I have found, now listed as Bx . It does get confusing I must admit, I hope its been of some help. Terry
  2. Richard there are other interesting variants along similar lines for other years which I'm still looking into . I will let you all know about them in the near future. Terry
  3. Sorry to see you selling up Steve , best of luck . Getting on myself you see . Terry
  4. Hi Alf / richard. That seems to follow my findings so far . I wonder if any C types will come to life with the gap. or B types touching. We will all have to keep a look out. I should add that the narrow date B types seem to have the extra leaf [ obverse R ] Terry
  5. Hi Richard . That's what I was still researching . It seems to follow with the 15 tooth types, but the 16 tooth wide dates are type R with the extra leaf and the R and E are touching. So it will take a lot more coins with the extra leaf showing to make it clear which is which. Terry
  6. Hi Alf - Richard . I suppose we must assume at the present time that the wide date types are all Obverse R, until and if others turn up on Obv. S , but here's the thing , all 1889s also have either R and E in RE G touch or with a slight gap , ie R E G , now I have be observing which of the types are present on Obv. S or on R , I haven't been observing them long enough to make a definite statement . What I can say is that all the 16 tooth coins I have seen all have the R and E touching, and the narrowest date types have the gap, but the common 15 tooth coin has both types. Now this is where a larger pool of higher grade coins needs to observed , and compared. Also on Michael Goubys site he shows type BP 1889 B as 14 tooth , but in his book the same pictured date is listed as 13 1/2 tooth , a mistake you may say , well I have found two differing narrow dates one 13 1/2 tooth and other 14 tooth. PS Alf I've hunted high and low for that large bag of 1877 narrow date pennies I put away , but no luck , let you have a few when they turn up Terry
  7. Alf . I agree with all your findings, as all the examples I have seen have had obverse S with the extra leaf , but I have made some extra discoveries to the 1889 types . I have to go out now, but later today I will get back to you on my findings. Terry
  8. terrysoldpennies

    More Pennies

    I first saw this type nine years ago and started looking out for them , i've managed to by a good VF and one other , but the total count of coins seen in all that time is six. Terry
  9. terrysoldpennies

    More Pennies

    tell you what Dave,we'll all have to live 3 or 4 lifetimes to collect all the variations, just in rolled copper coinage alone Terry
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    More Pennies

    The easy way to tell a obv. J or freeman 6 is first, the B of BRITT is almost touching Victorias head, and the D G colons after D point to the tooth, with the ones after G pointing to the Gap. Rev. d has a small island to the left of the Lighthouse which has a pointed top . also the P in PENNY points to the tooth
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    Hi bhx It is a j+d [Freeman 6+d] Terry
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    Is this proof or not?

    Matt, are you asking if its a polished proof , only I find that they tend to be very difficult to photograph , and the detail on this looks quite clear. I have the same problem with two of my coins . one is a 1967 penny which is extremely shiny but not quit as shiny as the 1953 I have. the coin was my mothers collected in the 1960s , and I am sure its not been tampered with. So my guess is that its a specimen strike. The other is a 1953 penny with a strange sheen ,not at all like a normal circulation coin, so I wondered whether its a matt proof , but it has the same number of teeth as the circulation type, and is not a known type, so its been suggested that I get them checked out by the mint, maybe if you feel strongly about your coin you should do the same Terry
  13. Well Matt think I've done it , i've sent a letter to Richard.  I hope I haven't buggered up .   Many thanks   Terry

    1. Nordle11

      Nordle11

      Excellent, looks all OK to me Terry, hopefully you'll be good to go from here.

      Matt

  14. Hi Richard .  I have been having problems viewing the small pictures on your headsntails site . So as I thought it was my computer giving the problems, I ask Matt about it and he seems to have worked out that its to do with where your pictures are stored . Anyway this all goes right over my head, but he has set up something for me with wordpress to view the pics, but they will ask you for permission , so I wondered whether that would be ok.  Its a brilliant sit ,but frustrating not to have all the pictures open up. If you need an explanation as to the technical bit, I'm lost, so please as Matt .  I do understand if you say no.      Many thanks Terry

    1. secret santa

      secret santa

      First of all, it's quite lucky that I spotted this as I didn't get any prompt via email which I usually do if anyone PM's me through the forum - if I hadn't come to check my own profile for a previous message, I may never have spotted it. Did you PM me or go a different route ?

      Secondly, I'm not sure why you're having problems but it's fine to get permission. I'll grant it when it comes through.  As I think about it, it may be that because I've copied and pasted some images from my collection website (englishpennies.wordpress.com) which is Private into the varieties website (headsntails14.wordpress.com), it's possible that you won't be allowed to see some images. If I'd uploaded them from scratch to headsntails14 you would be able to see them. What message do you get when you can't see a particular image ?

      If I want everyone to see headsntails14 I'll have to go back and upload all the images again - a lengthy process but I'll have to do it.

    2. terrysoldpennies

      terrysoldpennies

      Ah Richard . well when it starts opening all the pics of hole pennies open , but all of the small variation pic do not , there are just small little boxes with a cross in the centre, and if I click onto them a card comes up asking for a password . to contact you I bring up secret santa and post the massage . Is there a better way only I don't know it .   Terry

    3. secret santa

      secret santa

      When you bring up secret santa, you should click on the envelope to the right of the image rather than start writing in the open post section further down. Clicking on the envelope brings up a new screen like email and when you send it I get a notification. Try it and see.

      Richard

  15. terrysoldpennies

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    seems to be more coming out of the woodwork all the time , it will be common soon Terry
  16. Matt. I wondered if you could help me . when I go into Richards coin reference site I find that all the pictures of complete coins open up, but the smaller pictures wont . and the little box with the cross in to press, opens to a card saying I need pass words to continue . Have you any idea why they will not open , is it perhaps that there's to much information for my computer.    Terry

    1. Nordle11

      Nordle11

      Haha yes, you should pander him to do it :D 

      From what I can tell, it's just to do with how Richard has put the pictures into the site, some are clickable (which opens them up on their own page or in a new page) and some are just not.

      The reason some are asking you to log in is because while the pictures are posted in the headsntails site, they are being hosted on his personal site (where the picture actually lives), which is private, and doesn't allow you to view the image until you log in and have been approved by him. Basically the link in the picture is taking you to his private site which won't show.

      Hope that makes sense.

       

    2. terrysoldpennies

      terrysoldpennies

      Do you think Its set up that way deliberately,should I ask him, or could you explain it to him better than me   Terry

    3. Nordle11

      Nordle11

      Not deliberately to block the pictures, but because he already had the pictures on his first site it is 10x easier to just copy them over instead of making new pictures.

      It might be quite a big job for him to do that, it would be easier for you just to have access to the other site, which I'm sure he won't mind, but it does mean you need an account at wordpress. It's not all that easy to get one though because you need to make a site first, but to sign up is free. Happy to create an account for you if that's easier, so you can just use the log in. I'll send you a personal message if so because you'll need a password and these messages are viewable by everyone.

      Matt

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    Thanks Prax. I perhaps gave the wrong impressions of the grades, one is Fine the other is near EF , I said VF/EF. This is the best one, though I think its been cleaned Terry
  18. From Gouby,s site Terry
  19. yes I think your right , but the ones I've seen were the complete blockage , so probably the more common Terry
  20. Much rarer than people think , with my one yours is only the third one I have ever seen Terry
  21. terrysoldpennies

    LCA March

    I have two Matt, so there are at least three. Terry p s have looking for years though
  22. Jerry. did you see my post on colons in more pennies on Friday, I would welcome your opinion.  Also have you come across anybody else  with the 1860  2*  145 tooth penny.    Terry

    1. terrysoldpennies

      terrysoldpennies

      Thanks Jerry. did you take it along with you to LCA.  you are Jerry aren't you ,as you finished with Gary!! .

      Anyway looks like its pretty rare     Terry

    2. jacinbox

      jacinbox

      Jerry is Jalida. I am Gary. Unfortunately none of us owns a 2* so Mike printed a scan of the 2*. .

    3. terrysoldpennies

      terrysoldpennies

      Sorry about that . Gary .   nice to speak to you anyway  Terry

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  23. Richard , did you see my post on colons in more pennies on Friday , I would welcome your opinion .  Terry

    1. secret santa

      secret santa

      Terry, I did see your post and have looked at many of these pennies myself. As I say on my varieties website, I'm confused by them. All the pennies with either close or small colons (or both) show the incuse lines engraved on the bun (and the almost disappearance of the teeth into the rim) which suggests they are late stages of modification of the 4 die. The suggestion is that the colons have been re-entered onto a die with missing colons (which also has the lines on the bun) but there are many different "re-entered" colon types which suggests that there must have been many missing colon dies which have had the colons added back, in varying positions. But the missing colon variety (BP1860T) is very scarce and almost certainly (?) from a single die (although I have yet to compare all the known specimens to confirm that). There are other anomalies (see website again) which to me suggests that Michael Gouby's analysis of the nature and sequence of modification may not be absolutely correct. I still want to find time to do much more work on this and will keep you abreast of my thoughts/findings.

      Richard

    2. secret santa

      secret santa

      Sorry Terry, I think that the anomalies of obverse G are discussed on my collection website (englishpennies.wordpress.com) - do you have access to this ?

    3. terrysoldpennies

      terrysoldpennies

      I just tried pumping in englishpennies.wordpress.com  in to google, it wanted a password , I'm not great with computers , not far off 70 you see. am I doing it wrong .    Terry

  24. Hi  Prax, about your 1934 missing waves. is it from the Workman collection , only I have two the best being VF-EF, as I wonder as to how rare they are , and what the possible numbers there might be of this type.    Terry

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