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terrysoldpennies
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Richard , did you see my post on colons in more pennies on Friday , I would welcome your opinion . Terry
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Terry, I did see your post and have looked at many of these pennies myself. As I say on my varieties website, I'm confused by them. All the pennies with either close or small colons (or both) show the incuse lines engraved on the bun (and the almost disappearance of the teeth into the rim) which suggests they are late stages of modification of the 4 die. The suggestion is that the colons have been re-entered onto a die with missing colons (which also has the lines on the bun) but there are many different "re-entered" colon types which suggests that there must have been many missing colon dies which have had the colons added back, in varying positions. But the missing colon variety (BP1860T) is very scarce and almost certainly (?) from a single die (although I have yet to compare all the known specimens to confirm that). There are other anomalies (see website again) which to me suggests that Michael Gouby's analysis of the nature and sequence of modification may not be absolutely correct. I still want to find time to do much more work on this and will keep you abreast of my thoughts/findings.
Richard
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Hi Prax, about your 1934 missing waves. is it from the Workman collection , only I have two the best being VF-EF, as I wonder as to how rare they are , and what the possible numbers there might be of this type. Terry
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More Pennies
terrysoldpennies replied to Prax's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
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terrysoldpennies replied to Prax's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Hi Jerry / Richard . This is a type I've been looking at for some time now . I have found two 1860 coins, both as usual freeman 4+d , but slightly different from other types that I have seen. The first has the halfpenny colons like the penny above , but closer, and are larger in size like the normal colons . The other has wide set colons extending into the outer line, and rotated sharply, to a greater extent than the 1860 satin 20. There arrangement is identical to the 1861 satin 28a . Now the odd thing is that both were obtained from Australia , was this a coincidence, or perhaps a batch of pennies, all being of this modified die type were shipped out to Aussie in the 19th c. Maybe the no colon dies were sent out, recut and coins milled out there. Terry -
Which would you choose ?.
terrysoldpennies replied to PWA 1967's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
That's a tuff one , I would think it must depend on the individual coin, and just how much the degree of wear damage or corrosion affects the overall appeal of the coin. And as to whether the type indicators can be seen clearly. Terry -
clogs, die faults, et al.
terrysoldpennies replied to bhx7's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
This could be gold plating wearing off ? Terry -
clogs, die faults, et al.
terrysoldpennies replied to bhx7's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
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clogs, die faults, et al.
terrysoldpennies replied to bhx7's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Jerry , its as you say about the 1915 clogged 5. I bought one four years back for £15, and at the time I thought, have I paid to much , but I haven't seen another for sale since Terry -
Sorry to all you non dot penny collectors . This Obverse double dot type is only found on the 1897 high tide penny
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Thanks for the info. Terry
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Pete . is this magnifier USB connected for a computer Terry
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1897 penny double dot serifs
terrysoldpennies replied to terrysoldpennies's topic in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.
8 years of looking , I've have one , seen one other fully formed, and Richards ,not quite two serifs Terry -
1897 penny double dot serifs
terrysoldpennies replied to terrysoldpennies's topic in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.
I must confess , I don't know why they should be round or sometimes oval, but they seem to form mostly along the cracks that are in the legend, as can be seen on Richards coin, where a smaller dot on the left of the O must later enlarge to link into the side of the O. I don't know the exact way they are made , but maybe the bronze is soft and creates a bubble of metal in the form of a blob Terry -
1897 penny double dot serifs
terrysoldpennies replied to terrysoldpennies's topic in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.
Ian .The die would a Mirror image of the face of the coin ,so a dot standing up off the coin would on the die be a hole, so to remove, it the hole would have to be filled. My guess is that tiny edge parts along the side of the die crack, broke away leaving a small hole, or in this case two holes. -
1897 penny double dot serifs
terrysoldpennies replied to terrysoldpennies's topic in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.
I think they are the result of a tiny die crack Terry -
1897 penny double dot serifs
terrysoldpennies replied to terrysoldpennies's topic in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.
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1966 missing waves
terrysoldpennies replied to terrysoldpennies's topic in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.
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1966 missing waves
terrysoldpennies replied to terrysoldpennies's topic in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.
the picture Terry -
1966 missing waves
terrysoldpennies replied to terrysoldpennies's topic in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.
Mr T. Difficult to explain, so hence the diagram , Looking at normal bright uncirculated pennies of the 60s there is no sign of scratches at all , but on this one the minute scratches run down the right side of the coin , and some also run in a slightly different direction across the exergue. no scratches can be seen on the raised parts , like the lighthouse shield or waves, so it looks as though a engineer has used something like an abrasive paper just on the top left side of the die, I shall try to get a close up some time Terry Ps I am try to add the drawing , bare with me -
Hi Richard. I wondered if I might ask you a few things. The 2* 145, have you heard of any more being found other than the four I already know of.
2 You list your 1967 missing waves as R8, how many of this type do you know of .
3 I have a 1953 penny with the standard B+b [1+B pairing, but I think it might be a matt finish, as it has a strange kind of sheen, most unlike the normal production coin. I don't have another toned matt finish to judge it by, except a 1986 matt and polished 2p proof that's in a bright condition. Have you heard of the possible existence of this type. I think i might get it checked out at the mint in the summer while on holiday. Would you know who to contact about taking the coin along in person, as I don't trust the post with it Terry
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1966 missing waves
terrysoldpennies replied to terrysoldpennies's topic in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.
Mr T . I was wondering about how it was caused . when you look extremely close with a magnifying glass, you can see the minute lines from the grinding of the flat surfaces running right through from the open flat area, into the bare area where the waves should [ I must get myself a close up camera] . I thought that if this was caused by grease or dirt , the complete individual wavy would disappear , and not leave just the points of what on the normal coin are much larger waves, so I would think it must be the result of the top of that part of the die being ground down lower , and so loosing definition Terry -
New Forum 23/12/2015
terrysoldpennies replied to Chris Perkins's topic in Forum technical help and support
You know Matt ,you have to keep this computer stuff simple for us oldies . I'm just getting the hang of the Babbage model Terry -
the 1953 pennies
terrysoldpennies replied to Mr T's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Mr T . I see you've left out B+x . can't see why . X rev below Terry -
Your 1904 is 11.5 tooth width with a straight 4. if you look in the forum under 1904 penny varieties 23-10-2013 I think its the second date down Terry
