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Minor modifications were probably quite often made, and I guess we will never know all of them. Many years ago I looked into minor changes made to the 1958 Halfpenny with different teeth lengths and rim widths. All were done on a scanner so as to have exactly the same proportions with no distorted pictures, and the result was four types. Even the ship size varies as shown with two differing coins spliced together. below

It might have been that two or more Working dies were struck with just the 192 with the last digit 6 being stamped on separately before use .

Fu Funnily Enough I sent a message to Richard at exactly the same time as you posted here Martin saying exactly the same thing, but that because both ME coins have the small Britanniar neither coin could have been modified post Mint as this obverse and reverse had never been present together on any other year penny , So therefore both must be Experimental dies from the Mint

I think the problem is Paddy that without the broken/smaller tooth above the colon , you would be had put to convince a buyer that its a Recessed ear type . Below is my coin which has a very slight damaged colon tooth , also another picture of a worn coin which is clearly a recessed ear, but you can see that the tooth is intact but very slightly smaller than the other teeth. If I were you I think I would try to find one with one of those faults on the colon tooth .

I'll have to pass on that question for now Richard , but I will let you know in due course

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1863 Slender 3 F44 Well I just can't believe my luck on this one, I never thought I'd ever manage to get my hands on one of these 🤩

This is just about the most extreme example I have come across !!! An 1862 penny Note the half circle on Victoria's back , its the shield from the reverse side . The extra ribbons are created from the folds in Britannia's. dress

It was probably a badly formed planchet .

I can only real talk about my observations on copper or bronze pennies, as that is my major interest . I find that over stamped letters/ numbers are extremely common on coins up to about 1863 though some can still be seen through to the 20th century . The last I think being 1945. The ones that are of interest to me and I would guess a lot of collectors are the ones that are dramatically out of place or triple struck . Some examples below Triple struck Y quite sort after , note the G and D overstruck but of little interest Here's Y over Y dramatically out of place 8 over 8 And just look at this one !!

I think that's a Gouby Ba narrower date type as Ian [ alfnail ] says . Terry

It looks like the picture of the coin sold on London Coins in auction 180 5/3/2023

I've had another really good look at the two pictures and I feel sure I can see many duplicated marks on both pictured examples [ arrow marked ] ??? Your coin on right

Sorry about that Richard but it does look like No 11 . And I've also made a slip up above as its a 4+D 🙃

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Here's one more for your list If you want it Richard an f22 1861 2+D with missing top leaf .

Its example 11 on your list Richard.

Well the answer to that is with difficulty . Firstly the 1915 is rarer than the 1916 and that most collectors associate the type with the broken tooth and want it to be clearly visable . And so without it, its really hard to tell from a photograph, but in hand its easier to determine the depression in the centre of the coin. Below are four pictures of the tooth gradually looking more broken Note in the top picture the tooth looks to be intact, but on closer inspection it is actually very slightly smaller . really hard to see on a coin. ?

No sorry its not a Recessed Ear type . With slightly worn coins, the recessed ear type shows no sign of ware to the top of the ear [ the Slight flattening you see on your example shows that the centre is protruding and readily becomes warn Also usually the tooth above left of the colon between T:O is damaged but not always with the 1915 , but always on the 1916.

Its one of the most mis attributed types you see , nearly all the so could high tide examples on E.bay are incorrect . The best way to tell is by the stem of the P in Penny which on the High Tide points to the Gap [space] between the teeth, on all the others it points to the Tooth.

That's an amazing stroke of luck to find an Freeman 90 unattributed. I've been collecting for twenty years and have made some fantastic finds , but have never seen an F90 for sale any where other than in a specialist auction . I have though had the luck back in January to find an 1897 F148 in AU condition after searching all that time. Examples turn up but normally in poor condition . My example is pictured below. But good luck with your quest to find an example of all Victoria pennies as some are thought to be unique , such as the F19 1861 2+F

1861 Freeman 28 5+G Managed to pick this one up recently , in not to bad a condition and its an upgrade for me . A devil of type to find in high grade !!! 😊

I had the luck to pick this one up on ebay , unattributed 😊 An F148 high tide

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1904 narrow date with 1 over tooth, Lucky enough to pick this one up in uncirculated condition Ex rare