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Hi there, I think this is a jetton from the Papal States... it has the winged lion on it (st Mark?)... It looks similar to a Nurenburg jetton.but I know nothing about them - any ideas? Thanks.

.....also - I am very unsure how to grade these coins from the 16th century. I know hot to grade coins from the 19th and 20th to G/VG/F/VF/EF etc.. but how do you grade these? Same scale of wear and tear etc? It helps if you know what a mint one looks like, lol.

Who bought that? I can't see it as anything but a standard penny in 'Good/Very Good' condition... unless I'm missing something. For £250 he can have all my Fine Victoria veiled head pennies. - free delivery too.... I'll deliver them by hand.

They do look a bit perfect... not my field though - I'd love a Cnut penny... but I don't want to pay hundreds of pounds for a real one or £2.00 for a copy either.... I would love to pay £2.00 for a mint like real one like the ones on e-bay... but I think it sounds a bit too goo to be true. Still, what do I know?

16th Century? idk

Sorry for my ignorance - but what does this F26 mean? From the pic above and following the conversation in the thread - is it something to do with letter spacings and proximity to the outer rim of the coin? Thanks.

Thanks for your replies. The 186i can go in my collection next to the 1861 anyway. It is still an item of interest for me. I am aware that my 2 pronged farthing is only worth about £15.00 but it sits nicely in my album next to the 3 pronged on as an example - I'll keep an eye out for the 1840 one. :-)

Hi, I have an 1861 half penny which has a capitol I instead of a 1, 186I - the coin is probably VG condition as it is too worn to be fine but is an OK coin. Googling it I found some pics of an 186i mint error but no info. Is it common? I'll post a pic up when I get chance to photo it. Thanks. It is an interesting coin anyway - I also have a 2 pronged 1839 farthing and a normal one for comparison.

OK - He says it might be a gaming token - maybe I was wrong in thinking it was a sixpence... Is he implying it 'might' be gold then or something then if it isn't a gaming token? I am confused and have probably given the listing too much of my time already, lol. Let's move on.

lol -maybe I got it wrong... looks like a well worn sixpence... I can't see why anyone would fake a well worn £10 sixpence, lol.

My Rotographic price list gives it as £10.00 in fine condition.... although it might be 'nearly fine' (being very generous)... it has a lot of ugly pitting on it. I couldn't grade it any better than VG at best imo. He has put it up for £20.00. lol - maybe some mug will buy it.

hmm - I am still unsure about my coin... i am going to send it off to be checked I think. Good news is, the 'fake' roman coin I got with it isn't fake according to the local archeological trust... It is a VF Phillip 1st Antonius - I just assumed it was fake due the price and how perfect it looked... :- You win some and loose some... I've lost a few, so good win on that one! lol. The fact that the roman coin is decent makes me think this might be too. I'll have to send it off when I get around to it. If it is real it lists at about £700. Anyone know what it might be worth it is is just a museum copy?

Bought this with a fake Roman coin at a boot fair. I knew the Roman one was a fake, but what about this? I know nothing about these at all. I looked online for similar things and it looks Greek. I've seen similar in the £2 to £700 range, lol. anyone know what it is? It has a nice weight to it and it similar size to a 5p coin.

I can't see how he can list it as VF... and what are all those wavy marks on it? I have one that is fne...maybe better - but it has a load of coin art on it... none of it any good, lol. I have it on my stall for about £7.00..... maybe I'll e-bay it, lol.

Thanks again - I might take it to the Archaeology society in town, they have a coin guy there. It does look a bit like that one, but some of the writing is missing on mine if it is the same. It doesn't have wrl written on it or anything, lol, and it feels nice, cold and heavy. I bought it from a guy at our coin fair recently - he has a lot of nice coins, but mainly 16th to 20th century British and world coins. He doesn't know much about Roman coins but I don't think it is a fake. I will investigate further though.

I am struggling to identify this. The head has 'Mako...' on it. That might be the start of a name. the obverse is an eagle on a scroll or a thunderbolt. The guy I got it from thought it was Roman. I thought roman republic, greek or polemic. anyone know what it might be? Thanks.

seeing as it's value would be about a pound normally (?) if it had both sides, wouldn't it now be worth 50p? lol I'd pay 50p for it... I could maybe use it in a magic trick or something.

Do we know the mint numbers for the Potter 50ps yet? How would one find out?

Thanks - I'll check it out.

I have a few old spanish coins. I think I have one of these..I am struggling to read the date though. I had some 8 Maravedis coins, later than this one though. One was in quite nice condition..F/VF maybe. I sold that one a while back. They are nice coins these old spanish ones. I have some pirate cobs which are interesting coins too.

Don't say the left one, lol. Yeah, if he said 'high grade' he can argue he didn't give an actual coin grade I suppose. Although I would take high grade to be VF or better.. I do not know what that really means. I am a little unsure about grading older coins from 1600s to 1700s. Is there more leeway with the amount of wear due to age?

OK thanks.

PS - it is about 10.7 grams and I realise I didn't include a scaling object. It is about 2 cm across.

I bought a couple of crappy coins from e-bay as gap fillers last year sometime... a victorian farthing and an earlier george one. I have bought 100s of coins from ebay in the past and never expect the grades to be quite as advertised. The victorian one was advertised as EF. The picture was very blurry and all I could tell was that it was shiny. I didn't expect it to be EF at all and I won the auction for about 4 quid including delivery. I did however expect it to be nearly fine or VG maybe... or even poor. I didn't care about the george one which was really worn but the date showed. When it arrived it looked as though it had been cleaned with a sander or a file or something. Maybe put under shoe and skidded on down the high street. It was shiny because it had been polished but had lots of wear and had huge violent scratches and gouges all over it - none of which were visible on the blurry photo. . I was in a bad mood that day and only gave the guy about 1 star for product description on the feedback - I have only ever given non positive feedback about twice ever. I never give bad rep usually but I was annoyed. He sent me a snotty note about giving him neg feedback and how I was an idiot to expect a EF coin for the price and he was not happy about my rating of his sale over just £4.00. I calmly told him that the term EF has a specific meaning with coins and collectors but maybe I had been hasty in giving him neg feedback if he didn't know what he was talking about. He accused me of dishonesty regarding the condition saying it was at least VF when it left his place. He was the one selling a worn out coin polished up with a scourer with blurry photo and calling it an EF grade so he shouldn't talk about dishonesty. I never usually give bad feedback, even if the coins is crap... and the bloke was right that the coin was very cheap. I wouldn't have minded if he hadn't offered an estimated grade and it turned up worse than the pic, or if the coin was just polished and nearly a fine grade, but his claim of EF annoyed me. The huge scratches and the massive wear were so blatant and ugly and did not show up at all in the photo and no one in there right mind would describe the coin as so. Normally I have very good experiences when buying old coins from e-bay. Sometimes there are some real shockers though as you guys have shown here.