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#400 a. Gilt Brass with reeded edge
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The Younger Heads are believed to be the first issue probably made after the increased automation of the factory in the 1880's steam was added allowing the coins to be produced on a much grander scale expanding the distribution and likely the profit. some are rarer than others #400 13mm Brass with reeded edge these early ones have the word COUNTER in the exergue not uncommon
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I am happy to hear that you have a lot more on the Balmberger coins I keep finding them and often wonder if they are new or simply covered by the broad explanation Rogers gives at the start of that section. Well it will be good to compare notes . Also if I know you are collecting and bidding on coins and they are being used for research I can happily let you take them. It worries me that the coins might just be used for pure collection ...I am afraid the scientist in me sees collecting as a means to an end to improve our knowledge. When you come to cardboard coins there is a collector in Derbyshire David who has specialised in this and is writing a book at the moment I think. Toys are by definition ephemeral lost and played with and easily forgotten and I think we have a chance of improving things I am thinking of donating my collection to a toy museum but I shall see when the time comes.
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I think now I have dealt with a lot of the "non Lauer types" it is time to be begin the Lauer coins themselves. It is hard to bring the history of the Lauer minting house alive but I did find recently this postcard which shows the mint house in the late 1800's Lauer as a family of minters of tokens and medals began well before the production of the small coins often only referred to as Lauer Toys. Nurnberg was as I mentioned a city built of industries that worked in small metal fabrications and in a way a bit like Birmingham was in England. I am sure the markets opened up once a German Prince sat next to Victoria and the wealth of peoples changed and small present giving became increasingly popular as money was more freely available. So a confluence of timing and opportunity which blossomed mostly in the the mid 1870's to the late 1880's . Yes the factory continued into the early 1930's producing medals and the factory was bombed in the late 30's early 40's . I have written to the toy museum in Nurnberg but as yet have had no communication from them about any history they may know of the production of toy coins.
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If you get a chance go back and take a look at the last 15 pages and hopefully we will be able to expand on what is available
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Oh great that was going to be my retirement project LOL I have found numerous new examples in both the British and European Lauer type coins. When I started these pages I left the Lauer coins for a while as they seemed to hold more information than most. Where are you based? Nice to meet you by the Way Larry
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Greek that should read
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DrLarry replied to mrbadexample's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
I have to admit I have missed looking for these later years but shall watch out now I know what I am looking for ....I am just very partial to that particular lighthouse LOL -
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DrLarry replied to mrbadexample's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
yes I will but I have another below but yes you are right thanks again -
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OK so this one the 74 as it has the leaveve spread and has HONI SO must be a OBV 9 I Rev -
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Oh yes I see now thank you that is a useful tip -
could you tell me do you know if the Gothic Portrait 1 D 1848 in copper is one of Moore's models? Actually I am not sure it may be bronze
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DrLarry replied to mrbadexample's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
and the 74 sorry the image is not good it is still in transit -
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the portrait may compare to the sovereign Mark by Lauer 1878
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This one is a mystery to me at the moment. It has the ring of silver it may have once been gilt 20 mm 1.2 mm . if anyone has any ideas please share . I dont think is it a Greet St Basil's cake coin
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there are a couple of tokens one by Lauer that sadly got away from me recently (but I was only half interested) permission to share from CoinWorldTV in Vienna Austria it's one of these Controlling your temper pieces but interestingly I have not seen one in white metal 3.8 gm 22mm I would think it to be aluminium or Tin ? if the date is correct it seems to be a very early use of VICTORIA's portrait very nice example of early Lauer . It is similar to the one in the whist box but those are gilt brass
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Here as promised the new one . As I mentioned no other example illustrated by Rogers appears as this one the nose points directly towards the centre of the R and the S of SPIEL is at the back edge of the first part of the veil small letters seem to have been used for BAVARIEN and a mix of large and small letters for spIeLMarke
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these two have images from the Fitz the first only the obverse was imaged the second both sides I will add the new one tomorrow interestingly this one shows numerous over stamping together with misspelling of MARKE using a reversed N it is hard to tell but it also appears that the L of SPIEL is an I over something
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I have just re-examined this Sovereign along with another I have just located and find that this one does not correspond to any of those listed in Rogers the lettering bgins much further back on the the head and there is a mix of large and small letters in SPEIL MAKE . a mention is made to an unseen one #623 b which I thought might be this one but then I found a second one with mixed sizes in the lettering of SPIEL MARKE but in this example the S begins over the VEIL
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sadly even when the malaysian airlines plane was shot down travelling out to the World AIDS Conference nothing was done. I lost three good friends that day, including my mentor and the world lost a swathe of biologists and virologists and immunologists.
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that is about all I have of these although Rogers only lists one other a Sovereign and a Crown who knows whether others exist possibly ?
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this one to the Right of the crown # 633 to the right of the crown
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The Last ones which seem to be made by BALMBERGER are a group NURNBERGR SPIELMARKE I dont have a lot of them as they are pretty Rare this one #632 was unseen by Rogers and has the R on the tip of the crown ...Half Sovereign #633
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One Farthing: #690 a second is listed in Rogers 691 with larger letters on the obverse and #696 is Brass with 1897 in exergue and a fourth #697 similar but in Copper the farthing is after the Trident in both
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