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Well I am off to America to seek my fortune with a big bag of pennies by the end of the week I will be a millionaire. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155418827861
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Could you please help me out ...I do try hard with these hammered coins but dont seem to get too far. In general I quite like the overall look but up above the portrait there are tool marks and the legend is "damaged" the old ticket from SPINK does not mention anything. Please could the experts in pre milled silver help me with your opinion ....I am assuming it may have been a touch piece ... Many thanks
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OK great this puts my mind at rest. As I have said I only collect in order to leave the collections for the charity and would rather deal with these questions now than to leave the potential problem for others when they sell it. Many thanks- 16 replies
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One Farthing small lettering both sides the G of farthing above the ship The copper content appears to be much lower in the first example again SPIELMARK is spelt without an E Rogers #693 and 694 has the legend further up the head #692 has the G overstamped across the ship and # 694 may be the first hard to see in the black and white of the print one certainly appears to of a different metal #695 s Brass and the lettering on the reverse much larger
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The second HALF PENNY is copper the legend lettering seems to be smaller than 686 and further away from the portrait and SPIELMARKE begins much further back and has no E. again the HALF sits in between the Trident and the Helmet the lettering is again small. This type is unlisted in Rogers his small lettering everses all the HALF to the left of the trident so this one have no number allocation there is a spare number Rogers has allowed for # 689
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Ihave two examples of half Pennies Rogers lists 3 ~# 686 ;687;688 #686 is brass large letters on the reverse with the HALF touching the helmet and small letters on the obverse
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interestingly there is an error in the legend which would suggest either a prior positioning or could simply be a setting error
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The Bavarien Penny I only have one of this one is in copper but appears to be larger than normal 13 mm or so small lettering on the obverse 0.6mm and small # on the reverse #676 in Rogers RRR
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The Two reverses show the differences in the design
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here is the second half crown Large letters on the obverse and variation in the legend on the reverse the lettering being larger
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this just looked like a file had been taken to it- 16 replies
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I also find it a lot in 18th and 19th spanish silver used for trade often with the far east , they can sometimes be covered with small glyphs
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do any of us ever know the complexity of the mind and the impact of such painful events. It is nice that you all with the history of these events can remember and share them I suppose that is a uniquely human quality ( not memory and passing the essentials on) but the learning that grows from each event and each interaction.- 16 replies
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sounds awful- 16 replies
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Tom mentioned that you might have the catalogues for August 2009 # 125 well he said to ask at least ...thanks- 16 replies
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The reverse of the second one I own shows a slightly different design and position of the lettering of the legend as well as having the larger lettering the small lettered version is not listed in Rogers so there is a spare number #639 and I have listed it below
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thanks for taking a look- 16 replies
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You are always good at knowing these old tickets it shows being an amateur what is lacking in any experience I have- 16 replies
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I never thought of the provenance in the circular ...- 16 replies
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the reverse of the ticket is SPK 20098/125 does that give any further information ? I cannot see any trace of solder that I would recognise just a series of tool marks in one direction. I suppose it may have been clipped a little the reverse mint mark crown is very strong do you think that weak area may just be a strike issue?- 16 replies
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I certainly know that other medalets were made onwards for the 1930's by Lauer the toy coins I dont think continued. It is quite possible that the age of the "mistress of the House" in terms of keeping and learning the house economics was gradually eroded over time in Europe in a similar way as it did in the UK. You would think that there would be a democratising of house keeping and an increase in buying power of the poorer members of society. But along with the end of the age of the nursery in grander houses may have led to a reduction in the age of the Dolls and dolls money but we would have to think about it. I wrote recently a few days ago to the Toy Museum in Nuremberg to ask many of the questions like yours and to enquire if there was a national collection of Toy Coins in Germany (specifically Nuremberg) I have not located one online as yet. A lot would be wrapped up in the industrial development of the city in a similar way that Birmingham was the centre of toys and trinkets made of metal in the UK. For Germany there is a metallic toy money issue in 1910 and up to 1919. The Weimar republic issues are dated 1925 and third Reich issues made with a date of 1937 and 1938. Post war issues dated 1950. 1888 for Denmark and Belgium. Austria has a OESTERREICH dated 1937. Almost all the later issues seem to show no real quality attached to the production the closest to the Lauer quality come from issues for Swiss markets by A G Sigg Frauenfield made in 1948 1970 and 1979 . Perhaps post war toys maybe were considered frivolous as teaching devices in metals, in the UK we see the growth of the cardboard teaching sets then of course by the 70's plastic.
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Half Crown small letters #642 ? In Rogers 3 types are listed with small to large lettering
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type 3 Larger obverse lettering nose between A and R and pellet and dot with bar on either side below the three pence no serifs
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Type 2 Three pence again BAVARIEN by BALMBERGER intermediate size lettering on the obverse nose to between base of R and A . Reverse pellet and star
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The Three Pence Rogers has listed 2 varieties #671 and 672 Leaving no space for these new varieties . This appears to be the small size font The S of SPEILMARKE is quite far back on the veil the nose points to the centre of the R # 672 I think with the reverse without serifs and the pellet and star version
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