Martinminerva

Yes, just a circumferential die crack. Victorian bronze was very prone to it, and around the legend letters especially so as these were points of weakness. Nothing numismatically significant here, I'm afraid.

Yes, correct on all three! Numbers two and three are quite scarce die pairings.

Just see the furore that has broken out on ebay about this! In just one day, over 150 negative comments and counting... https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Seller-Central/NO-LONGER-SELLING-DUE-TO-SIMPLE-DELIVERY/m-p/7813888#M717338 As I said above: And I absolutely rest my case. I will not be selling any of my duplicates on ebay any more. Perhaps I will indeed put a few things on the for sale and wanted threads here and just maybe in time we on the forum can build our own marketplace??

"Rear coins", my arse! Never a truer word spoken, ironically!💩 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335864676756?itmmeta=01JPFXGTJTN1RG45Y420E50A97&hash=item4e33184194:g:z6YAAeSw3gRn1tFb&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA4MHg7L1Zz0LA5DYYmRTS30mrq7ZxPzDEwuz8dTR9vNwPjzLW%2FuMX5XltgQFtpMHHmnRKnKSwHS2EHGaBuZZTzeAyo7vBCaNXWE7rC0eUs1a3UAPqSfoxMXUhGYBRxRctI1SzZkz%2F87wmmn7PLVuqilJL2Hnpyum2FXPyagkamcmyk19tRXQ1uYhivX%2F%2BQ5MpVwJR4wrVH884T3OqmdtYRy%2FMBYuL99oc2ot7nkkIQkglog9iV0i6hktsrzfkuOT9Vj8D4SESULXQdPk7VyUd5VA36awsPuW0yS638Fe%2BmT45|tkp%3ABFBMyKnD_bNl

I am sure they did as it was an auction listing rather than a buy-it-now (I saw it too and took screenshots also, so you're not going mad, Terry). Changing the image and the title is a way for the seller and buyer to avoid others noticing - though they did - and to avoid a hefty eBay fee to boot. Wonder who got it and for what actual price??

Curious... If you look at this screen grab I've just done (at 8.55pm today), the page still exists and works - highlighted in red, but at the END of the list of links. The one bracketed [2] in its usual place is a dead link. Copy the one that works while you can!!

Indeed, really bad. It was working earlier today fine - I saw the new uploads of the 13#+L's of Bernie's and Bob's. One thought - does your web host not have a facility for undoing recent changes, and returning to a previous state where all worked fine? They usually do for exactly this reason. Fingers crossed.

Very true, but websites have a habit of vanishing when the person behind it no longer supports it for whatever reason. Web archiving eg. The Wayback Machine does not seem to preserve pictures, and for coin varieties, they would seem to be essential. We have been talking about Joe Lee's farthingshalfpennyerrors.com recently, and also the about farthings website and others that are no more. Many years ago there was a brilliant website about threehalfpences and groats, but again now totally gone. A book gives permanence, even if outdated in time in terms of new discoveries. We still refer to Peck and Freeman as something of "bibles", and rightly so, the originals of which go back fifty plus years. And likewise, Gouby's has decades of pedigree. The best bet for me is both media - a book for a permanent record and ease of ready reference, and websites for latest discoveries etc. When appropriate, the latters' findings can then be incorporated into revised editions. ESC is now onto its 7th incarnation, I think, and still going strong. Website only research and publication will become totally lost in time, which is just a terrible waste.

First one is mdccclxxiii, so 1873. Second one is mdccclxxxvi, so 1886.

There was talk on here a few years back about an official re-write of Freeman (maybe either by Michael himself, or under his auspices?), incorporating all the new findings, whether the appendices in the reprint of that book, Satin's work, Gouby and also those discoveries now published on this forum by various members. And with the advent of digital photography, much better images. A monumental undertaking, but it would assemble everything into one place. But I have heard no more about it. Maybe just too big a job...?

Thanks! It's not the same coin. On this one above, the stop is significantly bigger and in a different location. Also, the coin above is more heavily worn than the coincommunity one.

Can you post a link to it as I'm not on that forum? Thanks.

Well, I take it all back! I have now seen this one. The seller states that 3 are known (not sure where that data is obtained from though). Just to clarify - this is not the type with the last i re-entered directly over a much lower i - I have one of those! The stop (or blob ?) is significantly offset from the final i. So, is this what the cataloguers meant?

Hi Richard This is a die clash rather than die crack - the mirror image of Victoria's face is what has transferred to the reverse die and all subsequent coins then struck, due to the dies coming together without a blank in between them. Nice and clear, but very common.

It's a half groat - two pence.