Martinminerva

...and I think this one is an 1874 9+I, but I confess I can't be sure as the colon and leaves are not clear on the picture. On obverse 9, the leaves are even further away from the colon again. Post a better picture when you have it in hand and I'll let you know!

This one is just a "normal" 7+I. Notice the position of the top leaves of Victoria's wreath in relation to the colon after G:

Obverse: @secret santa Richard, if you want to use these for your rare halfpennies website, be my guest!

Talking of 8+I, keep looking out for the very rare 1873 (sic) 8+I too. Unrecorded originally in Freeman, it is now mentioned in Appendix 4 of the reprinted version. Dracott records 3 specimens seen, and here's a fourth: (obverse to follow)

Despite being a regular bidder and buyer for well over a decade, they didn't even send me a printed catalogue this time (they did this for a spell once before); I much prefer to read a paper catalogue thoroughly than browse a ponderous website, so I won't be putting in any bids. Not very good business acumen...

Maybe so! But I'm sure it will reappear at some point in the future, along with some more utter cock and bull.

Yep - that's a 9+K. I was watching this too, but the seller kept "ending" then re-listing it! Good show too on the 8+I - that's a very rare die pairing in my experience, rarer I feel than Freeman states.

Hope so! And as has already been spotted by copper123 above, is it 10% going to charity or "over half" as she says in her blurb?? You just don't know what to believe about her! 😉

Agreed - it is a quite nice (but certainly not uncirculated!! More like GVF to me - and there's a scratch) but very common 4+D. Bad luck!

Well spotted! Was this recently or a while ago? I take it you got it? I spotted and "bought" the 1897 HT some time ago, but it never arrived and they refunded me without question or delay. I think they realised their mistake...

Oh lord, it's her again. And no amount of mentioning "the misses" will disguise the fact. Quite a house in Leeds she lives in... One of her earlier 1933's was found inside a clock, I seem to remember, and now one up her chimney... 😉 Wonder where the next one will be discovered... Any guesses?!

That is a shame . Although if you were going to enter the counterfeit business as a chinese die maker I think the Contemporary Georgian counterfeits would be the best place to start. I have a lot of them and recently have been shocked at some of the prices they fetch in the US ...it is a big part of their history You should be on safer ground listing them as non-regal or contemporary copies - there are loads of that sort of listing all the time. "Fake" is probably a word to avoid... Mind you, in 200 years' time, wonder if there will be a good market for today's Chinese copies and replicas? Maybe "Chimney sweep of Leeds" (see above!) should just hang on for a couple of centuries! 😁

It is 8+J. Reverse K has Britannia's left leg distinctly descending into her lap and the date digits much lower. J has the two legs parallel (as above), and digits higher.

Here we go again... "New" seller in Leeds, but same old guff... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385421080558?hash=item59bce2f7ee:g:SCwAAOSwhtxj7Tf7

Wonderful digging around! Well found! These make very interesting reading and I will add to my library!

This is one of those catalogue errors (like 1854 half sovereigns?) that has persisted through the years - I guess it was originally catalogued either in error or assumption, and then subsequent cataloguers have just "borrowed" the information. Goodness knows how they arrived at rarities and values ("based on realised prices at auction" or similar when a specimen had never actually been recorded!!). It was in the old ESC, EMC and Seaby catalogues, and I think even in some of the Spinks when they took over publication, though now corrected there and by Bull. A genuine mule would be an impossibility as the arcs and the date are on the same obverse side, though I grant that a 33 arc die might just have been prepared and then discarded, and so it is just conceivable effectively a "pattern" or two might just exist, though the absence of a recorded example these last 130-odd years would suggest not. Happy to be proved wrong, though! Here's a shot of some blurb from the Coincraft catalogue of 2002. The Dickinson referred to is "Victorian Godless and Gothic Florins", SCMB 1978/1980 (Seaby Coin and Medal Bulletin) but I don't have a copy of those. Does any member have, and can they post screenshots? Ironic then that they kept it in their catalogue for many years afterwards!

More from Blakeyboy's favourite seller... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234888374858?hash=item36b0702a4a:g:wtsAAOSw~ZNj4fCP Who would have thought that verdigris would be such a selling point?! 😉

Thanks very much. Do any other members have any specimens of 7+C# to add to the census?

Definitely an 8+C# (I was the underbidder!) The best diagnostic is the position of the leaves of the wreath relative to the colon after DG. On obverse 7, the two front leaves are higher and almost touch the colon. I now have records of 18 existing. Much rarer is the 7+C# of which I believe only 5 are known.

If anyone is still interested in a 1937 2+B proof penny, this part set I have listed on ebay contains one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285129613598 It isn't B.Unc, sadly, having had some handling, contact marks and I suspect circulation, but I am sure it is an impaired proof as it still has enough of the mirror finish when angled into the light. It was in my collection until I managed to get hold of a better one! So, I thought I'd throw it in with the part set...

Nayim. Or rather, Mohamed Alí Amar, known as Nayim, a Spanish retired professional footballer who played as a central midfielder. He scored a last-minute goal for Real Zaragoza in the 1995 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Final against Arsenal, with a 40-yard lob. So, he could lob Seaman from 40 yards! 😄

And the number two was Master Mate, not Master Bates !! I think that's how the urban myths originated - the guy who voiced the cartoon did quite a nasal tone for Pugwash and so Master Mate on occasion did sound a bit dodgy! From there it was just a matter of time for the myth to spread and grow. All good fun, though!

Suspect it is a slight Spink confusion for un-barred A's in Britanniar, which is sometimes erroneously referred to in the literature as inverted V's. It is just die wear or die fill, and happens a lot in the Georgian and Victorian copper farthing series. See, for example, http://www.farthingshalfpennyerrors.com/george-iv-farthing-1822-un-barred-a-in-britannia-obverse-1-raised-midribs/

I have just put on eBay a reasonable grade 1858 large rose (large date, sadly!!) penny, which members might be interested in, along with a few other lower grade scarcities and date width varieties. The link to the listings is : https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?item=285024221493&_ssn=1970kit&_sop=10 Hope they might perhaps be of use to members... Cheers!

I have just put on eBay a reasonable grade 1858 large rose (large date, sadly!!) penny, which members might be interested in, along with a few other lower grade scarcities and date width varieties. The link to the listings is : https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?item=285024221493&_ssn=1970kit&_sop=10 Hope they might perhaps be of use to members... Cheers!