Advice and opinions on these three silver coins please

[Stuntman 264]

Today I've been looking at a dealer site that I hadn't come across before, and I would welcome the forum's collective opinion as to the grade of these three, and whether the prices seem reasonable. I'm not entirely sure that they are actually currently available for sale.

I've emailed the seller regarding the first one as it's a coin that's definitely on my wants list!

1693 W&M shilling - up at £180

http://www.coinsandtokens.com/excel/england-coins/silver/silver-coin-pics/ES0027.jpg

1861 Victoria shilling - up at £130

http://www.coinsandtokens.com/excel/england-coins/silver/silver-coin-pics/ES0005.jpg

1847 Gothic crown - up at £1195, seems good value if true?

http://www.coinsandtokens.com/excel/england-coins/silver/silver-coin-pics/ES0019.jpg

Thanks in advance!

[SWANNY 25]

That Gothic Crown looks very clean , shame there is not a higher detail picture (I have blown it up, but it loses detail)

[Paulus 1,975]

The Gothic crown is sold according to his site.

His pictures are truly awful, you would have to get better pics or see the coins in hand, but judging only by the pics for the other 2 coins his grading descriptions are """optimistic""" - the 1861 he describes as "Good Extremely Fine - Uncirculated Choice"

[Stuntman 264]

Cheers Gents.

Paulus, it looks like the seller still has that Gothic crown for sale, although he does appear to have sold another one that he had graded as EF for £1100 (ES0046 on his site).

[SWANNY 25]

No , there are two Gothic Crown's, and the one above is for sale

ES0019 Crown Victoria, 1847, Gothic Proof, Extremely Fine £1,195.00

[Paulus 1,975]

Cheers Gents.

Paulus, it looks like the seller still has that Gothic crown for sale, although he does appear to have sold another one that he had graded as EF for £1100 (ES0046 on his site).

Sorry, yes, you're right

[azda 979]

An EF gothic for £1200? If it looks EF I'd be buying it then sending it straight to CGS, it's too good to be true

[Paulus 1,975]

looks NEF to me, wear on hair and elsewhere on obv

Edited November 16, 2015 by Paulus

[VickySilver 830]

Hmm, I'll vote EF although there likely are hairlines, etc. that at least I can not see from photos. That still seems like a good price, however.

[damian1986 142]

Well here's a gVF that was formerly used as a tea coaster and hammered at £1200 - http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&auc=150&searchlot=1918&searchtype=2

Would say it's a couple of grades better than that even though the photos are a bit rubbish.

Thing is why would he underprice a coin that is desirable (i.e. probably quite easy to shift) if it's as described?

[VickySilver 830]

Caveat emptor! I agree, appears too good to be true...

[SWANNY 25]

I emailed a day ago asking for better pictures , no reply yet

I may phone the number to see if this site is actually live...

Has a few nice coins that I would like to own.

[TomGoodheart 402]

Anthony Halse is a BNTA member and Chairman of South Wales and Monmouthshire Numismatic Society.

I don't know any reason the site shouldn't be live. Hopefully you'll get a reply soon.

[Stuntman 264]

He hasn't replied to me yet either.