Elizabeth I id

[George111 8]

Now I know this is not up to "standard" but I dug this out the ground ages ago and don't know what age or value ie shilling or crown? ect

Anybody help me ?

[HistoricCoinage 147]

Elizabeth I Shilling, looks to be initial mark Escallop making this the Sixth Issue coinage and minted 1584-1586.

Nice find, and not often pierced for secondary use in this period.

[George111 8]

Also this one

[George111 8]

8 minutes ago, HistoricCoinage said:

Elizabeth I Shilling, looks to be initial mark Escallop making this the Sixth Issue coinage and minted 1584-1586.

Nice find, and not often pierced for secondary use in this period.

Thanks for the info

[jelida 1,317]

The second coin is a 1580 sixpence of Eliz I, mm long cross.

Jerry

[George111 8]

Thanks for your info too

[Coinery 1,157]

I still believe the crosses so often scratched into the Elizabeth shillings were there to bring them into line with the new XII of later monarchs!

[George111 8]

The 3 lines do appear to be intentionally done

[George111 8]

Not 100% sure but there maybe something scratched into it in the triangle maybe love token

[George111 8]

I might be seeing things but it looks like an A and M scratched into it in the triangle

[Coinery 1,157]

What triangle do you mean?

[George111 8]

The one near the A of Elizabeth, well its not quite a true triangle seeing as one side is curved LOL

[Coinery 1,157]

I wouldn't say it was a love token, personally. Great find, though!

[George111 8]

Was it punctured and crossed because of her death and became none legal tender ?

Would love to know your theory's (thoughts)  

[Coinery 1,157]

No, it would've been legal tender, right up to the recoinage in William III's reign.

After Elizabeth's reign all shillings were produced with XII in the fields, maybe to rectify the possible confusion that unmarked coins had had in Elizabeth's reign? So my theory is people began marking the 'unmarked' Elizabeth shillings with an X to ease identification, especially many decades later when people had gotten very much used to the XII coins. You have to remember, with clipping, worn sixpences, and unmarked Elizabeth groats, it probably wasn't easy for a lot of people.

Holed? My guess is a piece of jewellery, maybe contemporary? In the 17th century, as today, there was great respect for Elizabeth so, even though the coin was still valid currency at the time, it was starting to become an antique. An old hammered coin around your neck, when milled coinage was now the norm, which you could still spend in an emergency (a credit card), must have had appeal?

[Nutsaboutcoins 105]

3 hours ago, Coinery said:

An old hammered coin around your neck, when milled coinage was now the norm, which you could still spend in an emergency (a credit card), must have had appeal?

Nothing new with "Cash for Gold Silver" We have all sold the missus' jewelry when needs must    

[Michael-Roo 781]

37 minutes ago, Nutsaboutcoins said:

Nothing new with "Cash for Gold Silver" We have all sold the missus' jewelry when needs must    

Errr…. No.

[George111 8]

Deffo looks like its had a "loop" or maybe string judging by the rubbing around the hole (ewer Mrs said in a Fankie Howard kind of way LOL)

I can see they needed to mark their coins or a mistake could be very costly