Charles I gold Crown for full ID

[GJB 3]

Hello,

This is my first post on the forum.

Last weekend I had my first full hammered gold coin and am now seeking as much information on it as I can obtain.

So far I know (or believe) that it is a Charles I gold Crown, that it is Group D, fourth bust and tun mint mark. However all of the examples I find online have an inner circle of pellets pictured and on my coin this inner circle is missing both front and back. I have been told that the reverse without an inner circle is known and that there was an example in the Schneider collection (number 247). However I am keen to know whether my coin is indeed a genuine known subclass i.e. one without the inner rings of pellets; an error; or (I hope not as it is clearly gold) a fake.

Any information which I can gather in this regard would be much appreciated and enable me to further enjoy what is, for me, a most wonderful find.

Many thanks

[Gaz T 130]

Great find. ?

[Rob 3,152]

Schneider covers these in the 1959 section of his BNJ article on Tower gold (vol. 29 p.382-403). Up to and including Tun (period ends 8th May1638), the predominant type was that with a wire line inner circle ( as per yours), though others with both a beaded inner circle and no inner circle were also known. After Tun, i.e. Anchor onwards, all subsequent issues had a beaded inner circle.

[GJB 3]

Great information Rob, that fully puts my mind at rest that this is indeed the genuine article.

As I say my first complete hammered gold coin (I am a detectorist of five years standing) and it will always have a special place in my collection.

I see the wire line now you mention it, I previously thought it may be an impression from the die when struck.

My next job I guess will now be to try and track down a copy of that article to complete the picture...

Many thanks for your kind attention

Graham 

[Rob 3,152]

It's on the British Numismatic Society website. Someone else will have to provide a link. I find it easier to get the book out, as it takes less time to read than it does to download.

Edited December 15, 2017 by Rob

[GJB 3]

Found it Rob.

Thank you very much for all of this. For me the biggest enjoyment of finding items from the past is learning all about them afterwards - and this is turning out to be no exception.

Excellent - I hope I will have cause to visit the site again in the not too distant future with some other find of interest!

Thanks again

Graham

[copper123 1,504]

Never sell it- something with a great story behind it pass it on to the kids

Probably lost after the civil war I would say in that grade .

Worth a tun LOL

[Gaz T 130]

11 hours ago, copper123 said:

Never sell it- something with a great story behind it pass it on to the kids

Probably lost after the civil war I would say in that grade .

Worth a tun LOL

So true ?