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5 hours ago, The Bee said:

The first is the ONE from the reverse of an 1873 penny. I wondered if the E had been repaired with an F, or whether there was just damage to base of the E ? (nice penny whether damaged or repaired)

 

1873 Penny Reverse O N E.jpg

 

I would doubt it, for the simple reason that an F would still have its bottom serif. My thought is that it's either die damage or a slight misstrike.

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11 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

I would doubt it, for the simple reason that an F would still have its bottom serif. My thought is that it's either die damage

I agree. There is clearly damage with the die crack and resulting blob of metal in the O so it is likely that the E has suffered damage too, maybe abrasion? Again, it is just possible a partial hand-repair has been done as was mentioned on one of your halfpennies, but can't be conclusive from this pic. A high resolution enlargement, if you can do one, might help, but Peckris is right that an actual F punch would have a bottom serif.

I think your 1854 halfpenny on the previous page is just the result of corrosion - maybe a cleaned detector find out of the ground. Acids in the soil cause all sorts of pits, blobs and effects to the metal. As an occasional detectorist myself, I have found many once-nice coins sadly similarly affected.

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Many thanks again for your help 

I will return the halfpenny to the discard pile ! I will have a closer at the Penny. I am sure you are a both right, it is most likely damage, probably random abrasion. Peckris is absolutely right, it can't be an F as there isn't a trace of a serif, even an upside down L wouldn't fit (had one been available)

Very Best Regards

 

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1 hour ago, alfnail said:

1861 Freeman 24_Gopuby E (with top leaf) Predecimal.jpg

Going to end up common and anyone that wants one already have one soon 👍

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1 hour ago, PWA 1967 said:

Going to end up common

I've still got only 18 of them as yet. Just added this one (with credit to Ian)

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33 minutes ago, secret santa said:

I've still got only 18 of them as yet. Just added this one (with credit to Ian)

Yes didn’t realise there was two types of F24 👍 Not knowing is the only difference the leaf or any other indicator please ?                                   Can ignore this as just looked on the website 👍

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Yes, it is F24 with top leaf present, as per pictures below.

Interesting that in MG's book he says '2 Known' with top leaf, and '7 Known' without top leaf, whereas Richard's website shows more examples of type with top leaf.

I will be selling this F24 as I have a high grade F32 which will do me for my collection.

If anyone is interested in having the F24 please feel free to message me. For reference (£), I think it is similar grade to the one sold at London Coins in June 2017. 

F24 Leaves and LCWYON.jpg

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On 1/1/2025 at 12:51 AM, PWA 1967 said:

Yes didn’t realise there was two types of F24 👍 Not knowing is the only difference the leaf or any other indicator please ?                                   Can ignore this as just looked on the website 👍

Yes I don't remember this one either - filled die I'm guessing?

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